Red tractor stakeholder survey on governance

J 1177 · Jan 4, 2024

gone up the hill said:
What a load of rubbish!

Are the council members really saying they are scared stiff of minette so let have have free rein to do what she wants??

If that really is the case they have no business being on the NFU council as their role is to keep the NFU top team in check and do what the grassroots members want them to do!

Also by not standing upto Minette it is nothing short of weakness by the council members!

Truth is they know Minette is standing down next month so are quite happy to see her take all the blame when in reality the NFU council are as much to blame as she is because whilst she may be the main driver of this RT stuff they are quite happy to stand aside and let her do what she wants so truth be known the NFU council members are telling members they are against GFC when in reality behind closed doors with Minette they are endorsing the GFC!

Needs to be complete reform at the NFU as its quite clear the current system of governance has serious failing's!

Minette being how she is could be very convinient for some of council. Let her take the wrap because shes so wedded to rt. Leak to farmers that they are very angry but do feck all about it.
Keep their future paymasters happy and let battersby take all the wrap from farmers.

Renaultman · Jan 4, 2024

neilo said:
I take it you weren’t selling beef animals or cull cows in the nineties?

My sister in law, still won't eat beef.

Drillman · Jan 4, 2024

JCfarmer said:
Is she a mad cow?

No that’s the NFU head Honcho!

egbert · Jan 4, 2024

neilo said:
I do (some), and I would still use EID if it wasn't compulsory, as a management aid.

That doesn't mean I agree that it should ever have been made compulsory, and there were vested interests clearly behind pushing that decision.

They still are, and pushing the next/bigger phase.
And curiously enough, Minette is in that too.....up to her neck.

egbert · Jan 4, 2024

texelburger said:
I would imagine a lot of UK farmers are already Carbon net zero,it's just the way the calculations are done.All grassland farmers would be Carbon zero,imo,with all the grass sequestration of Carbon but this is not taken into account in many instances.

By their standards we might be, but that's still pish.
If I burn 350 million year old fossil fuel, (or use fert or plastics from FF) I won't ever be carbon neutral as long as I've got a hole in my ....donkey.

No amount of creative accounting can mend that lie, and I wish we'd all face up to it.
I take it a lot of brains inside the establishment know it's the way it is, but can't stop the juggernaut.

Renaultman · Jan 4, 2024

JCfarmer said:
Is she a mad cow?

I couldn't possibly comment

JCfarmer · Jan 4, 2024

Renaultman said:
I couldn't possibly comment

I did wonder.

L P · Jan 4, 2024

Has anyone else had an email from CT today trying to explain that the survey was only meant for those behind closed doors? NFU put up a statement on website yesterday.

AIMS · Jan 4, 2024

L P said:
Has anyone else had an email from CT today trying to explain that the survey was only meant for those behind closed doors?

Would love to see it?

AIMS · Jan 4, 2024

I see that CT have a webinar coming up: https://www.campbelltickell.com/

L P · Jan 4, 2024

AIMS said:
Would love to see it?

SilliamWhale · Jan 4, 2024

L P said:
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So both reviews are fixed then. One because it's a select sample of representation and the second because it's co-ordinated by the NFU who are not trusted.

It gets worse not better

FiveBarGateOpinions · Jan 4, 2024

Tempted to write a blog post on the do's and don't of surveying farmers....

Number 1 - know what a representative sample is
Number 2 - Know how to work with farmers
Number 3 - know how to write survey questions that you can actually analyse!

Any more?!

I wonder how transparent the report will be and what will be included in the 'limitations of the data' section!

Vader · Jan 4, 2024

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MrNoo · Jan 4, 2024

I also note of late (last few days) a lot of Twitter talk from NFU people referring to them discussing with NFU members, so much so that I detect than non members will not be canvassed. Noticed it in a few statements.

Hay Maker · Jan 4, 2024

AIMS said:
I see that CT have a webinar coming up: https://www.campbelltickell.com/

I have looked at this thank you , has any one got any idea which planet CT comes from as they talk a funny language or can somebody interpretated this please?

Jackov Altraids · Jan 4, 2024

neilo said:
Now, yes. My post was about when and why FA started.
The public was blaming UK ag for BSE, which they were led to believe could mean millions dieing of NvCJD.

We know now that it was all blown out of proportion by Prof Lacey, but the public were, understandably, in a panic and blaming us.

Assurance was brought in to do just that, assure. I have no doubt that it helped to do that, with little effort on our part, alongside a raft of safety measures from govt.

RT today has come from that simple start, because we have let it.

Not exactly.
We have let our representatives that are meant to support/ defend farmers, let it.

SilliamWhale · Jan 4, 2024

Hay Maker said:
I have looked at this thank you , has any one got any idea which planet CT comes from as they talk a funny language or can somebody interpretated this please?

It means "pay us and we will churn out a report with whatever answer you want"

Cowabunga · Jan 4, 2024

Hay Maker said:
I have looked at this thank you , has any one got any idea which planet CT comes from as they talk a funny language or can somebody interpretated this please?

Translated and condensed, in my opinion it says “We talk bôllôcks using unnecessary, unintelligible soundbites”

It must impress the NFU and other ‘stakeholders’ or they wouldn’t entertain such puffed-up supercilious guff.

Old apprentice · Jan 4, 2024

In all this talk of a review of (gfc) there is and was no intention to do the review to say it should go ahead or not . So it will be full go ahead with it in the spring there is only one option to make exoduse of rt, nfu. as many have said I just don't get it when nfu, snfu,unfu, wnfu, ahdb, brc, are the owners of rt, do the so called farmers unions want to give away vast wealth of carbon to the retailers also coming down is all this imported product with free trade deals is there nobody on the union's that can see this are they only looking at the greasy pole or they just can't see it.

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