Fendt 724, heavy rear mounted implement.
- Thread starter Chae1
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It looked to be struggling to fully pick it up to me land wheel was dragging turning over.
I'd say from what I tried with my 4m combi on Monday it'll be about on it's limit of lift capacity so you'll be right because that will be a heavy lump of plough
What combi and what tractor?
6r185 + 4m kuhn it managed it fine empty and would be fine with 500/600 kgs in the hopper but much more could be the limit.
No my 724 was shît,half the tractor my 720 was,in six years between my 14 plate 720 and my 20 plate 724 they’d ruined them,software altered to protect the transmissionHas anyone complained on here about farming not payingI think everyone who has a 724 on here actually really rates them and are happy with their purchase. How do you rate yours?
and cheapened the cab.
James
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- Location
- Comber, Down
Cost ?
Price mostly and people generally scared to operate them as at first they appear daunting
Awkward in small fields.
Our average fields size is 18 acres smallest being 2 acres that's over 1200 acres of cereal crops I run a 5 furrow I'd like a bigger plough but know it would be a pain at times so just persevere with something that's convenient
Speedstar
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- Location
- Scottish Borders
driving passed i thought you had some nice big fields
You see the big ones off the road at a rough count 7 fields over 30 acre the biggest 1 is 52 acre next to my house and is a horrendous shape it's got 22 corners in it!!
God you do talk bollcks sometimes , they as handy as owt .have you ever used one ,An average headland turn in an 8000 JD would take about 20 minutes.
ollie989898
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It's the perception of them being awkward to get into corners and do headlands etc with. Granted there is a degree of that but you would get used to it. Fudging awkward pulling a press with some of them but the foreman I worked with managed a semi-mount with 8 furrows and would pull the press on everything apart from the odd headland here and there.
A modern tractor with electro-hydraulic spools and a proper headland management system on board would make them a lot easier to run with. Having a wider headland to do your turns etc on isn't that much of a big deal if you're used to using big trailed cultivators etc where you did larger than normal turns anyway.
ollie989898
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Yes, many times. That and/or old or earlier MX Magnums. Neither were the handiest of things to turn around or shunt with a modern tractor is a doddle compared to either by comparison.
It's 20 years since I used a semi mounted plough, but the farm I did my placement year at collage had a 6 furrow semi mounted. The type with a wheel at the back. Pulled it with a fendt 716 which, although on its limit in the heavier fields, was certainly up to the job. I really liked it coming from our 4 furrow mounted we had at home. Didn't find it awkward in corners as you could "steer" the back of the plough by turning it over one way or the other. Could lower the front in and then the back, so ins and outs were better than a mounted and if ploughing headriggs outwards it was great for the last run as you could leave the back up so you didn't have a furrow bottom left.
- Location
- North of Perth
Can't see why the 724 should struggle with that plough.our contractor used to run a cvx 1135 with a 5 furrow an a press an it used to manage no bother.
Deerefarmer
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- Location
- USA
Right... seeing the weight carried about on mounted implements in other parts of the globe is interesting, here in the states most all hitch mounted kit is semi mounted. I see a lot imported second hand tractors here on the east coast usa from europe and uk (mostly deere) and I now understand why the 3pt linkage is shagged
Around here you would need a massive tractor to pull a trailed plough. Pulling uphill with soft greasy bits would have almost anything digging holes. Mounted is essential for most outfits to keep moving.Right... seeing the weight carried about on mounted implements in other parts of the globe is interesting, here in the states most all hitch mounted kit is semi mounted. I see a lot imported second hand tractors here on the east coast usa from europe and uk (mostly deere) and I now understand why the 3pt linkage is shagged
The problem your seeing is that the rear linkage (especially deere) is simply underbuilt. A 200 hp tractor should be able to plough with 6f for 10'000 hours straight and have as good as no wear. Look at an excavator, 10'000 hours of the rams getting stalled and no wear.. And the parts are cheap to replace for what they are.
Deere and the others are just laughing as you buy loads of new parts while continuing to charge top money. At least the fendt and fastrac has a strong cross-shaft and a few grease nipples dotted about but I can't remember what the deere has in the way of grease points?
The back end of big tractors needs plant machinery type construction, sealed spherical and plain hardened bushes supplied with grease from an autolube system. Too busy putting their effort into high tech and ignoring the basics..
- Location
- Co antrim
The fendt crossshaft is oil which is a great design. Deere crossshafts are a bit rubbish