don't see the case for capping it frankly, would be a massive U turn and what they have said re desired uptake and a big set back re UK climate commitments
Defra now looking at capping SFI
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don't see the case for capping it frankly, would be a massive U turn and what they have said re desired uptake and a big set back re UK climate commitments
lloyd
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- Herefordshire
The case would be an economic one .
There is a large area of grade 3 land area in England especially in the central area
which at first glance looks more profitable in sfi.
So we look for imports to replace production but how stable and reliable will
they be if there is a major weather event in one of the main global producing regions.
Of course it might be a good thing as we would be able to get a realistic price for our outputs.
Bossfarmer
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- between Perth and Inverness
each to their own, no range rovers here or many foreign holidays but another generation to give a chance to, thats my priority not my neighbours
Bossfarmer
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- between Perth and Inverness
dont expect the schemes to last long, theres an army of civil servants to get a cut of the budget now, theyre thinking of ways to cut trates already the way the wheat price is going too many will want inWorking at half throttle means you never need to retire esiecially with the schemes on offer. These schemes are better than a pension, rightly or wrongly.
50 acres of birdseed/polinator mix will generate more income than my wife’s pension that she paid into for 30 years.
I can’t think of a better job than farming to keep you in old age. Even carrying on cropping can be done from a telephone. Many of my old contract farming customers worked that way. Wore me out instead!
lloyd
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- Herefordshire
You do get cow headage payment though unlike us poor English.
And we won't even talk about the TB problems English and Welsh farmers face.
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- Lincolnshire
Capping rules would be extremely complex and lead to all sorts of stupid inefficiencies. It probably makes more sense to put the whole of a small farm into a scheme than be left with a completely unviable reduced cropping area for example. And a big estate on poor ground is also probably best in a scheme in its entirety. What’s the point of going to all the effort of organising a harvesting team and running a store for 50% of what you grow now? Just my take on it.
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- Lincolnshire
It’s chicken feed compared to what they are spending on NHS or defence. A big urban vote winner (till food gets dearer which it won’t) and it helps meet the targets they promised at all those high profile summits. If you can compete with Ukraine head to head on grain then go for it. I probably can but schemes are easier and less risk. Now whether it’s actually “right” or not is a different matter.
Bossfarmer
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- between Perth and Inverness
the madness is quite simple, pay farmers to reduce the area farmed reducing the supply and then ALSO pay more for you food in the shops....
you can then increase the madness level to insanity by calling it "public money for public goods" even though 95% of the public have no interest or idea of your crop establishment system or wild bird seed plots,
meanwhile China is approving new coal power projects at the equivalent of two plants every week and has 1142 plants running in total
Bossfarmer
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- between Perth and Inverness
no we got less per acre the last 15 years to allow for the calf payment, it was taken out our own budget
lloyd
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- Herefordshire
Quite agree the phrase 'Make hay while the sun shines ' couldn't be more apt.
lloyd
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- Herefordshire
You were lucky some of your modulation money was returned in that form.
English bps has been modulated too with no such payment.
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- Lincolnshire
Well people voted for it so that’s what they’ve got. If they vote that we plough it all up again then we’ll do it.
As the head of the D.O. used to say “We get the same for rubbing out a line as drawing a line so the chaos that’s going on above us doesn’t bother us.”
As the head of the D.O. used to say “We get the same for rubbing out a line as drawing a line so the chaos that’s going on above us doesn’t bother us.”
Try to succeed
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Mine came back saying land is in a SSSi; it is not and the maps clearly show that. I do, like you, farm adjacent to one, which is literally just a standard woodland. Have they emailed you asking for the form from Natural England?Fudgers. All my fields that are adjacent to an SSSI, not in SSSI but adjacent, has to wait for Natural England approval before SFI is signed off, even were the only action applied on a parcel is hedgerow management the opposite side to the SSSI. Whose fudging land is it, ours or Natural England’s
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Devil's advocate
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- Posh side of Barnsley
Do you ever worry that they will grow up in obnoxious brats, giving them half of Scotland?
Bossfarmer
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- between Perth and Inverness
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incorrect you were getting more per acre
Bossfarmer
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- between Perth and Inverness
no thats all to do with how you raise them
you can try
We have some fields bordering a river bank which is an SSI, they have only approved the legume option at 100/ha and not sam3.
4course
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- north yorks
I hope im wrong but I fear you may come to rue getting their consent as it may not be just your time you are wasting .cos whats to stop them withdrawing it later or worse .
Hindsight
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- Lincolnshire
Expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive offer for farmers published
Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer from July will give the sector a clear path forward and boost farm business resilience.
From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024
Full details of the expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer available to farmers from July have been published by the...
From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024
Full details of the expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer available to farmers from July have been published by the...