What % of winter crops not planted or destroyed

Renaultman said:

This is the thing, this year is at worst, a 1 in 6 re autumn weather.
I love early drilling and being finished by the end of the first week in October, and may be able to continue, if legume leys and new chemicals help reduce the weed pressure

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teslacoils said:

I'd hope it wasn't 1/6.

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Renaultman said:

This is the thing, this year is at worst, a 1 in 6 re autumn weather.
I love early drilling and being finished by the end of the first week in October, and may be able to continue, if legume leys and new chemicals help reduce the weed pressure

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Renaultman said:

For us 19 12 so running about that. 12 was far worse here than this year, but I understand that it isn't the same everywhere.

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teslacoils said:

This is wetter than both of those. 2007 I think was wet too. Also 2004 when we started out.

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Renaultman said:

I think before 12 we would drill a lot earlier (plough combi) and more of a proper rotation with grass playing it's part.
In 2012, here, it started raining in about March and just didn't stop. I think we got everything drilled, less acres then, apart from the potato let land.

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yellow belly said:

Still as we were on 2nd October
wheat planted notill in September looking ok although today yellowing because of 125 mm rain in februarry
was quite green after 3 dry weeks in January
imho no till works well but need to drill early to give the crop a chance to get over the pre em
ploughed and cultivated this year also looks well from early planting the rest fro mid October onwards will struggle to out compete the bg or get over the pre em

now had 1108 mm since 1 marck last year average is 664
since October we have had 674mm 5 months more than average a usual rainfall
average for the 5 months is 287

any fertiliser put on here in January will now be in the North Sea or in the flood water by the lower Witham

the only answer is early drilling (September ) or milk cows that are inside for 7 months or both

2013 and 2020 were similar
in 2012 planting in October never recovered from the pre em or the cold 2013 spring
in 2019 no crops drill after the 23 September and no weather window to make a mess

both April 2013 and April 2020 were dry with plenty of drilling days

june weather will determine the harvest as it does every year provide planting is done whe n it is not too wet
notill 2 weeks earlier in the autumn than ploughed but 2 weeks later in the spring
my experience and my fathers since 1953 is never do any thing on the land when it is too wet the profit will be no less

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Cowcorn said:

A lot of wisdom in there
Man makes plans God laughs .....
Our small bit drilled during a brief respite looks fair but pulling the plug was the right move considering what came after .
Regarding the cows ....well there housed since Oct and it doesent look like the will see grass this side of Easter so near enough seven months ..
Only bright spot is the price is starting to move in the right direction having reached 40 cent litre base for jan supplies closer to 50 with solids bonuses .
Back in the black at that .
No such luck with grain though and the economics of late spring corn are far from encouraging .
Heavy ground wont dry in a hurry and the badly mauled maize and spud ground will need a lot of remedial work before attempting to drill.
No easy answers .
At what point would you say it was to late to bother and roll it over for a winter crop ??

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Woody j said:

If we drill early sept. BYDV can have a big impact on yield and if left to late can get caught out with weather, very hard to know when to drill

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yellow belly said:

If I drilled in early September as we did in the 1980s then bydv was a problem
drill from 20 September notill emergence early October then bydv is virtually non existent
not sprayed an inscecticide or used evict on wheat since mid 1990s

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yellow belly said:

Still as we were on 2nd October
wheat planted notill in September looking ok although today yellowing because of 125 mm rain in februarry
was quite green after 3 dry weeks in January
imho no till works well but need to drill early to give the crop a chance to get over the pre em
ploughed and cultivated this year also looks well from early planting the rest fro mid October onwards will struggle to out compete the bg or get over the pre em

now had 1108 mm since 1 marck last year average is 664
since October we have had 674mm 5 months more than average a usual rainfall
average for the 5 months is 287

any fertiliser put on here in January will now be in the North Sea or in the flood water by the lower Witham

the only answer is early drilling (September ) or milk cows that are inside for 7 months or both

2013 and 2020 were similar
in 2012 planting in October never recovered from the pre em or the cold 2013 spring
in 2019 no crops drill after the 23 September and no weather window to make a mess

both April 2013 and April 2020 were dry with plenty of drilling days

june weather will determine the harvest as it does every year provide planting is done whe n it is not too wet
notill 2 weeks earlier in the autumn than ploughed but 2 weeks later in the spring
my experience and my fathers since 1953 is never do any thing on the land when it is too wet the profit will be no less

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David. said:

But we are at the situation now surely, that early November emergence is required to be safe? We just aren't guaranteed the cold weather.

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Hindsight said:

Autumn 2015 was very warm and there was considerable BYDV Spring 2016 even in November drilled crops. Cheers.

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jackrussell101 said:

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Woody j said:

My opinion is with the climate we now have here ploughing is the only option if you want to continue growing cereals

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