Ripped off by HRN Tractors / Agritrac Exports Ltd (Stuart Barclay) - Aberdeenshire

Hilly · Mar 13, 2024

I drove to Lincolnshire to look at s tractor , bought it and it broke down first 100meters , fixed it and i still have it and use it 20 years later

you cant always tell looking at them !

Sam Partridge · Mar 13, 2024

BRB John said:
That's assuming you will 100% catch and see every problem with it.

And if it does require fixing and you decide not to buy it then it's a day wasted which unless your time is worthless it's still going to be ££'s.
Or you decide it's still worth buying you've wasted a day and still have a few days & £££'s fixing it...

Of course there's sod's law which you could go check it out and get a mechanic to check it out and everything could be perfect but ten hours after getting it the rear shaft bearing decide it's had enough and explodes into bits destroying a bunch of gears in the rear transmission.... Don't ask how I know...

But that would be added to cost of purchasing machinery. Its amazing how your mindset is different if problems are found after buying something. If you did due diligence yourself, you would feel more responsible and motivated to fix it or let the issue go. If someone buys something unseen and gets caught out, its generally a feeling of regret that makes them blame everyone but themselves.

As per one of your earlier posts, we're all busy, we're all farmers. Machinery buying is part of the job and time should be factored in somewhere surely. I'm not saying go look at a snowplough when you have hay down, can easily make time though. You saying you busy doing regular farm work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year? Some way to live

glasshouse · Mar 13, 2024

HRN pester me once a week
They must be desperate

DrWazzock · Mar 13, 2024

Hilly said:
I drove to Lincolnshire to look at s tractor , bought it and it broke down first 100meters , fixed it and i still have it and use it 20 years later you cant always tell looking at them !

Ain’t that the truth. Bought a Renault three years ago. Drove it up road at the dealers. All seemed well. Clutch went after 50 acres ploughing. Fitted a new one myself and it’s been fine since.
Bought another Renault. Drove it up road at the dealers. Seemed OK. Got it home, hauled 10t wheat to merchants and could feel and hear diff and final drives shuddering on every roundabout. Also needed a new radiator and this was sold to me after going the Claas main deaiers workshop out of our area.
Nobody knows exactly what’s going on inside them till they are warmed up and under load for a week or so. Old high houred tractors in my case, very cheap so not unexpected. I expect trouble, that’s why they get traded, but usually I can sort them out. I’ve no other option really. The only thing that annoys me is salesmen’s denial of the possibility of problems as if they can just bulls**t the faults away.

Top Tip. · Mar 13, 2024

glasshouse said:
HRN pester me once a week
They must be desperate

You big spender you

Lowland1 · Mar 13, 2024

When i first came to Kenya. The company I was working for was expanding it's farming operations. We bought 24 Masseys of varying sizes new but still needed a few more for trailer work and road maintenance. I suggested buying a load of secondhand out of the UK . I got the go ahead and bought about a dozen of varying sizes from 2645 down to a 240. It was in 1994 so I don't think I paid more than about £ 6000 for a tractor but the abuse I got from the farm managers was terrible. I thought I'd done a good job but the management wanted new and were really upset with the odd leaky spool valve, cracked light or split seat. What is acceptable to one isn't to another.

glasshouse · Mar 13, 2024

Lowland1 said:
When i first came to Kenya. The company I was working for was expanding it's farming operations. We bought 24 Masseys of varying sizes new but still needed a few more for trailer work and road maintenance. I suggested buying a load of secondhand out of the UK . I got the go ahead and bought about a dozen of varying sizes from 2645 down to a 240. It was in 1994 so I don't think I paid more than about £ 6000 for a tractor but the abuse I got from the farm managers was terrible. I thought I'd done a good job but the management wanted new and were really upset with the odd leaky spool valve, cracked light or split seat. What is acceptable to one isn't to another.

Aye, when its not their money.

ford 7810 · Mar 13, 2024

Lowland1 said:
When i first came to Kenya. The company I was working for was expanding it's farming operations. We bought 24 Masseys of varying sizes new but still needed a few more for trailer work and road maintenance. I suggested buying a load of secondhand out of the UK . I got the go ahead and bought about a dozen of varying sizes from 2645 down to a 240. It was in 1994 so I don't think I paid more than about £ 6000 for a tractor but the abuse I got from the farm managers was terrible. I thought I'd done a good job but the management wanted new and were really upset with the odd leaky spool valve, cracked light or split seat. What is acceptable to one isn't to another.

they’ll be all kinds of clapped out old Massey gone to Kenya is there not?

Lowland1 · Mar 13, 2024

ford 7810 said:
they’ll be all kinds of clapped out old Massey gone to Kenya is there not?

There's a Facebook page here with second hand tractors and machinery.i should put a few up you'd be amazed at what is sold in perfect working order.

tractorsandcows · Mar 13, 2024

BRB John said:
Just out of interest and to be cheeky, when you buy a new tractor do you go to the tractor factory to witness it being built?

They wouldn't let me in as I had already been caught licking new tractors in a dealership

tractorsandcows · Mar 13, 2024

Speedstar said:
Did you not stop for cup or coffe or any dinner on the way home ?

He had no money after buying the tractor

Pistonbroke · Mar 13, 2024

Lowland1 said:
There's a Facebook page here with second hand tractors and machinery.i should put a few up you'd be amazed at what is sold in perfect working order.

Back in the seventies the workshop manager from our David Brown dealer got flown to trouble
shoot on an estate in Kenya which had bought a dozen new tractors and had all worn their engines out in twelve months. The boys working there hadn't seen oil bath air filters before so when they found them full of sandy oily sludge they were cleaning them out and refilling with clean dry sand.🫣

ford 7810 · Mar 13, 2024

Lowland1 said:
There's a Facebook page here with second hand tractors and machinery.i should put a few up you'd be amazed at what is sold in perfect working order.

Please do right up my street, that sort of stuff

melted welly · Mar 13, 2024

Hilly said:
I drove to Lincolnshire to look at s tractor , bought it and it broke down first 100meters , fixed it and i still have it and use it 20 years later you cant always tell looking at them !

Was that a fastrac?

Hilly · Mar 13, 2024

melted welly said:
Was that a fastrac?

Aye it was , was it you that i bought it off ?

David. · Mar 13, 2024

A dealer that used to do all the sales locally a few yrs ago used to do a lot of business with "A man from Africa".
Used to reckon that if they would drive on the lorry, that was good enough.
He said they would drive them till they broke down, and then bodge them up and go again until they died and became donors for the next least clapped out one.

melted welly · Mar 13, 2024

Hilly said:
Aye it was , was it you that i bought it off ?

no, it just sounds like the sort of thing a fastrac would do.

bobk · Mar 13, 2024

melted welly said:
no, it just sounds like the sort of thing a fastrac would do.

Wash your mouth with soap , fastracs never break down , turning them round can be a chore

Hilly · Mar 13, 2024

melted welly said:
no, it just sounds like the sort of thing a fastrac would do.

Suction hose fell off power steering pump , someone had bodged it , i fixed properly in the end and its been a really good investment, im dreading the day i have to replace it as them sort of deals and basic machines seem none existent these days .

Rich_ard · Mar 13, 2024

melted welly said:
no, it just sounds like the sort of thing a fastrac would do.

Still waiting for mine to do that, only about 10 years now!

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