New Ranger vs New Amarok

Cowabunga

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Linked to this, a Government minister has today warned against Chinese cars. That they send information, or can send information including possibly from their audio and cameras back to China. Worse, they could all be disabled by the flick of a switch back in China, causing gridlock and mayhem both short and long term to their enemies roads and economies, both personal and national.
The Chinese are cognisant to this power and that is illustrated by the fact that Tesla cars, even those built in China, are banned from sensitive areas including military and government properties in China. They don’t need anything as crude as an electromagnetic bomb to sabotage cars these days. It can be done with a simple internet signal.
 

kiwi pom

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canterbury NZ
Linked to this, a Government minister has today warned against Chinese cars. That they send information, or can send information including possibly from their audio and cameras back to China. Worse, they could all be disabled by the flick of a switch back in China, causing gridlock and mayhem both short and long term to their enemies roads and economies, both personal and national.
The Chinese are cognisant to this power and that is illustrated by the fact that Tesla cars, even those built in China, are banned from sensitive areas including military and government properties in China. They don’t need anything as crude as an electromagnetic bomb to sabotage cars these days. It can be done with a simple internet signal.
China have banned cars made by an American company from sensitive areas over spying concerns and you manage to turn it into another China is the bad guy, they're going to destroy us post.

Really well done, America thanks you for your service(y)
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
China have banned cars made by an American company from sensitive areas over spying concerns and you manage to turn it into another China is the bad guy, they're going to destroy us post.

Really well done, America thanks you for your service(y)
I’m telling you thst it works both ways. However, make no mistake about it, trust the CCP at your peril and learn the lesson from the Russian situation
 

ski

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Linked to this, a Government minister has today warned against Chinese cars. That they send information, or can send information including possibly from their audio and cameras back to China. Worse, they could all be disabled by the flick of a switch back in China, causing gridlock and mayhem both short and long term to their enemies roads and economies, both personal and national.
The Chinese are cognisant to this power and that is illustrated by the fact that Tesla cars, even those built in China, are banned from sensitive areas including military and government properties in China. They don’t need anything as crude as an electromagnetic bomb to sabotage cars these days. It can be done with a simple internet signal.
do you have a link?
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
do you have a link?


The story about Gov minister warning was in Yesterday’s BBC NEWS but I’m damned if I can find it today. It might have been an ex Minister but I don’t remember. However it is not a surprise that such a warning has been repeated because similar warnings have been sporadically made for the last decade or so.
 

Tucker

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Mixed Farmer
So a SIM and mobile connection?
Before I left with the vehicle they set up the App on my phone, linked to truck via blue tooth I believe, I can unlock it, start it, turn on heating, heated steering wheel etc, fuel levels, tyre pressures, beep the horn, flash the lights, see where it is on a map, all remotely, I'm assuming the dealer can login in and do the same.
 

CPF

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Arable Farmer


The story about Gov minister warning was in Yesterday’s BBC NEWS but I’m damned if I can find it today. It might have been an ex Minister but I don’t remember. However it is not a surprise that such a warning has been repeated because similar warnings have been sporadically made for the last decade or so.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ivers-data-experts-warn-EVs-Trojan-horse.html
And they are doing it in Australia as well.
 

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
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Lincolnshire


The story about Gov minister warning was in Yesterday’s BBC NEWS but I’m damned if I can find it today. It might have been an ex Minister but I don’t remember. However it is not a surprise that such a warning has been repeated because similar warnings have been sporadically made for the last decade or so.
I'd there any evidence the thousands of Chinese cars on UK roads can do this?
 

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Before I left with the vehicle they set up the App on my phone, linked to truck via blue tooth I believe, I can unlock it, start it, turn on heating, heated steering wheel etc, fuel levels, tyre pressures, beep the horn, flash the lights, see where it is on a map, all remotely, I'm assuming the dealer can login in and do the same.
It's not Bluetooth as you can do that from anywhere on the planet with a phone signal.
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
I'd there any evidence the thousands of Chinese cars on UK roads can do this?
They are, like all new cars today, connected to the internet so it only takes someone with access to the servers to flick a switch. Which is why China itself has banned foreign electric vehicles from sensitive locations. They realise the potential even if you don’t
 

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