Step up Reform Party ?

capfits · Mar 24, 2024

neilo said:
Who would be interested in forming a coalition with them though?

In the unlikely event that they do manage to secure any seats at all, it will only be because the Tory numbers have been reduced to double figures. They will not be big enough to form a coalition govt with anyone, and nobody else would touch Tice’s toxic lot with a barge pole.

You could say I was being tounge in cheek.
I for one do not think they will get anymore than 1 MP, but of course I may well be wrong.
And yes there is only one party that will go into coalition with them, the very same Conservative and Unionist party that is apeing Reform from time to time. The irony being the more they do it they're it damages their prospects.
The gun has not even gone yet but after its predecessor UKIP choose not to stand against the Brexiteers types then one could see a similar move again on say some other strange reason one way migration or something who knows?
After all it is no cheap contesting an election with limited resources if nothing else.

le bon paysan · Mar 24, 2024

robs1 said:
Minimum rate of 15% vat plus a few things can be reduced.

Electric, Gas, Fuel Domestique are 5%.
Wasn't one of the reasons for leaving that you could reduce VAT on household bills? Did they?

Hindsight · Mar 24, 2024

robs1 said:
That's surprising in a Catholic country

Thought France is a secular country

robs1 · Mar 24, 2024

le bon paysan said:
Electric, Gas, Fuel Domestique are 5%.
Wasn't one of the reasons for leaving that you could reduce VAT on household bills? Did they?

Same as ours then, we have control over ALL Vat ratesdoes France ?

czechmate · Mar 24, 2024

robs1 said:
Same as ours then, we have control over ALL Vat ratesdoes France ?

Is that a bit like saying you now have control of ALL your borders?

Sorry, couldn’t resist

neilo · Mar 24, 2024

robs1 said:
Same as ours then, we have control over ALL Vat ratesdoes France ?

That was in place when we were in the EU.
Has the VAT rate been reduced on anything here since, as was promised would be a 'Brexit Bonus'?

essex man · Mar 24, 2024

czechmate said:
Is that a bit like saying you now have control of ALL your borders?

Sorry, couldn’t resist

Yep, we do, you still not understanding this sovereignty thing are you?

czechmate · Mar 24, 2024

essex man said:
Yep, we do, you still not understanding this sovereignty thing are you?

i live in reality rather than theoretically

robs1 · Mar 24, 2024

neilo said:
That was in place when we were in the EU.
Has the VAT rate been reduced on anything here since, as was promised would be a 'Brexit Bonus'?

No it wasn't, apart from a few things the EU has a minimum rate of 15% for Vat, wasn't the vat on sanitary products reduced ? Not sure when that was done though.

caveman · Mar 24, 2024

czechmate said:
i live in reality rather than theoretically

I'm wondering which of those big words you actually understand?

Hindsight · Mar 24, 2024

robs1 said:
No it wasn't, apart from a few things the EU has a minimum rate of 15% for Vat, wasn't the vat on sanitary products reduced ? Not sure when that was done though.

January 2021. All the benefit was absorbed by retailers and manufacturer. Retail price didn’t change. Google to pick up the reports at the time.

Hindsight · Mar 24, 2024

czechmate said:
Is that a bit like saying you now have control of ALL your borders?

Sorry, couldn’t resist

Well it changed the source of the migrants, thats all I can say for it.

robs1 · Mar 24, 2024

Hindsight said:
January 2021. All the benefit was absorbed by retailers and manufacturer. Retail price didn’t change. Google to pick up the reports at the time.

Typical retailers then but the Vat was changed which we couldn't have done before we left

essex man · Mar 24, 2024

czechmate said:
i live in reality rather than theoretically

The reality being that Westminster(the electorate)is now responsible for what happens at uk borders whereas previously this was not the case.

czechmate · Mar 24, 2024

caveman said:
I'm wondering which of those big words you actually understand?

all of them, how about you?

czechmate · Mar 24, 2024

essex man said:
The reality being that Westminster(the electorate)is now responsible for what happens at uk borders whereas previously this was not the case.

But I never said why you were failing to control your borders. To me failure is failure

le bon paysan · Mar 24, 2024

UK was lied to. It now "chooses to be poorer"

French VAT rates and VAT compliance
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Whilst France follows the EU rules on VAT compliance, it is still free to set its own standard (upper) VAT rate.

ttps://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/12/27/spain-scraps-vat-on-basic-food-to-help-with-rising-cost-of-living

Keeps 0% vat.

Spain food 0% VAT until 30 Jun 2024 - vatcalc.com

The temporary zero-rating of bread, flour, certain types of milk, cheeses, eggs, and fruits, vegetables, legumes, tubers, and cereals is to continue beyond

www.vatcalc.com

essex man · Mar 24, 2024

czechmate said:
But I never said why you were failing to control your borders. To me failure is failure

We're not failing, you seem seem to associate the word "control" with a reduction in immigration.
The government (the electorate) is responsible/has control over what happens at our borders.

caveman · Mar 24, 2024

czechmate said:
But I never said why you were failing to control your borders. To me failure is failure

First is first and second is nowhere.
You must be so disappointed on a regular basis.

caveman · Mar 24, 2024

czechmate said:
all of them, how about you?

Well.
It made me laugh.

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