Islam

stroller

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Arable Farmer
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Somerset UK
The muslim population of the UK has been doubling roughly every 20 years, at the moment we have political parties with muslim MPs, in the election after this year's there will likely be a muslim political party. This will hold the balance of power and they will use it to bring in sharia regulated areas, in the following years the continued muslim population growth will lead to a completely islamic country possibly preceeded by a bloody civil war like Lebanon.
 

Burrell Road Loco

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Arable Farmer
After a while you start to get tired of stupid. Plucked up the courage to tell your daughter's teacher about your concerns yet?
Yep, once again you’ve proved my point perfectly.
The perfect example why a sensible debate is NOT being had regarding Muslim influence in Britain.
If we, the unenlightened far right mob, can’t agree with you after being ‘told’ we’re wrong, then we must be snivelling emotionally damaged racists who were sexually abused as children, with guilt over our colonial past.

A little rich in this particular case perhaps?
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
Yep, once again you’ve proved my point perfectly.
The perfect example why a sensible debate is NOT being had regarding Muslim influence in Britain.
If we, the unenlightened far right mob, can’t agree with you after being ‘told’ we’re wrong, then we must be snivelling emotionally damaged racists who were sexually abused as children, with guilt over our colonial past.

A little rich in this particular case perhaps?
Have you confronted the teacher? Surely that’s the important thing. Getting tough on an Internet forum is a bit pathetic.. Failure to pick up sarcasm is a bit woke too.
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
Lighten up Dan ..i guess you can now admit that us Christians are safe to offend
Anyway youre a bit obsessive about religion ...for a man who claims to have none !!!
Wouldnt be surprised if you ended up a street preacher with a end is nigh repent sign ... ;) ;);)
Keep up, I am on the record in this thread as stating that both Christianity and Judaism have evolved and do allow 'progress' within themselves. Still irrational, and selling snake oil, but not weighed down with barbaric baggage from the past. (obviously excluding the Jewish demands for genital mutilation of babies and inhumane animal slaughter)

Religion is being shrugged off as its absurdity becomes obvious to more people, to paraphrase Holbach, ignorance of nature created religions understanding of nature destroys it. And that is accelerating, but only where religious dogma is not forced into children. But its adverse influence is still very much present and acting as a brake on many things that need changing; one of the worst here and now is its opposition to the right to die by assisted suicide.

I could very well end up as a bloke on a street corner yelling at embarrassed passers-by about political matters; but I'd never descend to the stupidity of superstitions and invisible friends - that would just be too embarrassing.

Talking of cakes, are you not proffering rights as cake and then saying it's not edible? You lawyers! 🤣
As I wrote above, the protections were always there in the Common Law, the HRA just made them more obvious and, for some anyway, more profitable... (y)
 
The muslim population of the UK has been doubling roughly every 20 years, at the moment we have political parties with muslim MPs, in the election after this year's there will likely be a muslim political party. This will hold the balance of power and they will use it to bring in sharia regulated areas, in the following years the continued muslim population growth will lead to a completely islamic country possibly preceeded by a bloody civil war like Lebanon.

To be honest that sounds rather like a refreshing change, I may well support such a party but I ask- what will their policy toward cyclists be? Will it be more stoning or more ceremonial crushing with a giant elephant? :unsure:
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
Yep, once again you’ve proved my point perfectly.
The perfect example why a sensible debate is NOT being had regarding Muslim influence in Britain.
If we, the unenlightened far right mob, can’t agree with you after being ‘told’ we’re wrong, then we must be snivelling emotionally damaged racists who were sexually abused as children, with guilt over our colonial past.

A little rich in this particular case perhaps?
I didn’t read your post properly. Sensible debate ? You can’t have sensible debate if people like you aren’t prepared to debate. Ranting on an internet forum to likeminded people isn’t debate. Go talk to your daughters teacher.
 

stroller

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Arable Farmer
Location
Somerset UK
To be honest that sounds rather like a refreshing change, I may well support such a party but I ask- what will their policy toward cyclists be? Will it be more stoning or more ceremonial crushing with a giant elephant? :unsure:
Have a read of the history of the Lebanon, a Christian country, Beruit was described as the Paris of the Middle East. Mass Muslim immigration of Palestinians lead to civil war and now an Islamic country.
 
Have a read of the history of the Lebanon, a Christian country, Beruit was described as the Paris of the Middle East. Mass Muslim immigration of Palestinians lead to civil war and now an Islamic country.

This history of most of Europe, southern, central or even northern is riddled with various factions holding control over various parts or fighting for the same often many times over in a short period of time. It is true that there were once hugely impressive masterpieces of settlements in all kinds of places in the world but some are not there any longer.

Given that the whole region was ruled by the Ottomans for hundreds of years it is hard to definitively say any particular area or designated patch of land belongs to anyone. As throughout most of human history, there is conflict now, just as there was conflict before. I'm not really sure what we see today is in reality any different to what one should expect.

The thing I find quite ironic is that while Europe was living through the dark ages, in other regions of the world Islamic scholars were busy making leaps in the fields of astronomy, medicine, chemistry, metallurgy and so on, or perhaps just simply uncovering technologies that had earlier been disappeared not long after the fall of Rome. :unsure:
 

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
Have a read of the history of the Lebanon, a Christian country, Beruit was described as the Paris of the Middle East. Mass Muslim immigration of Palestinians lead to civil war and now an Islamic country.
You should have a read of the history of Lebanon. Why was there mass Muslim immigration? The Jews came and created Israel displacing and stealing the homes and land of the Palestinians who ended up in refugee camps in Lebanon waiting to go home to farms and houses now occupied by Jewish settlers.
 
You should have a read of the history of Lebanon. Why was there mass Muslim immigration? The Jews came and created Israel displacing and stealing the homes and land of the Palestinians who ended up in refugee camps in Lebanon waiting to go home to farms and houses now occupied by Jewish settlers.

Who lived in the region prior to the Ottoman expansion? I have utterly no clue: but it could have been people of Arabic origin, Persian origin, African origin, Egyptian origin any other potential descent. I don't know enough about any of it but I wouldn't be surprised to find that the ancient Greeks lived/ruled there at one time very early on.
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
This history of most of Europe, southern, central or even northern is riddled with various factions holding control over various parts or fighting for the same often many times over in a short period of time. It is true that there were once hugely impressive masterpieces of settlements in all kinds of places in the world but some are not there any longer.

Given that the whole region was ruled by the Ottomans for hundreds of years it is hard to definitively say any particular area or designated patch of land belongs to anyone. As throughout most of human history, there is conflict now, just as there was conflict before. I'm not really sure what we see today is in reality any different to what one should expect.

The thing I find quite ironic is that while Europe was living through the dark ages, in other regions of the world Islamic scholars were busy making leaps in the fields of astronomy, medicine, chemistry, metallurgy and so on, or perhaps just simply uncovering technologies that had earlier been disappeared not long after the fall of Rome. :unsure:
You use a now redundant term in writing of the 'Dark Ages', which was a phrase coined as a juxtaposition of the 'Enlightenment'. Offer some dates for the 'Dark Ages' and let's see if we can find some advances in them , I bet we can.

And, anyway, there is no argument that some places under Islam had advances, what is at discussion is the fact that it stopped, completely, and even regressed.
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
You should have a read of the history of Lebanon. Why was there mass Muslim immigration? The Jews came and created Israel displacing and stealing the homes and land of the Palestinians who ended up in refugee camps in Lebanon waiting to go home to farms and houses now occupied by Jewish settlers.
Care to tell us who was in e.g. Judea, before Islam and the Arab tribes spread to it?
 

Burrell Road Loco

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Arable Farmer
I didn’t read your post properly. Sensible debate ? You can’t have sensible debate if people like you aren’t prepared to debate. Ranting on an internet forum to likeminded people isn’t debate. Go talk to your daughters teacher.

Several points to consider sir;

My choices regarding my children having nothing to do with you.
If you think ‘debate‘ includes slinging insults at people because they don’t agree with you, then maybe your wasted here.
Ranting isn’t what I’M doing……
Reading things properly before ‘responding’ might be a problem for some.
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Yep, once again you’ve proved my point perfectly.
The perfect example why a sensible debate is NOT being had regarding Muslim influence in Britain.
If we, the unenlightened far right mob, can’t agree with you after being ‘told’ we’re wrong, then we must be snivelling emotionally damaged racists who were sexually abused as children, with guilt over our colonial past.

A little rich in this particular case perhaps?
He has an adopted chip on his shoulder, and fully taken on the other rubbish that goes with it, historical ignorance, revisionism etc....
 

Ashtree

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Posters on this thread, with near average or above average emotional intelligence and general social perspective, should think again about further contributions to it.
Take a step back and observe the chameleon with a more jaundiced view. Won’t take long to realise that it’s nothing more than dog whistling. Mongrel dog whistling at that.
 
You use a now redundant term in writing of the 'Dark Ages', which was a phrase coined as a juxtaposition of the 'Enlightenment'. Offer some dates for the 'Dark Ages' and let's see if we can find some advances in them , I bet we can.

And, anyway, there is no argument that some places under Islam had advances, what is at discussion is the fact that it stopped, completely, and even regressed.

You can do research it just as well as I can bud if you're going to delve into the semantics. I've got better things to do than be a Google drone for someone. If what I have posted is completely and factually incorrect, I'll defer to someone with a better understanding of history to show me where- I'm not about to argue about it.
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Posters on this thread, with near average or above average emotional intelligence and general social perspective, should think again about further contributions to it.
Take a step back and observe the chameleon with a more jaundiced view. Won’t take long to realise that it’s nothing more than dog whistling. Mongrel dog whistling at that.
You're just smarting from being called out and exposed as a liar and a hypocrite, again.

Deal in facts and truths, you'll find it much better in the long run. (y)
 

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