How long before biggest dealers pack up

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Sheep prices have risen quite a bit recently...

But all you see on FB is the butchers saying lamb is now too expensive, they cannot stock it, it needs to be cheaper as they have high costs running their shops etc etc and can farmers help them out by selling them lambs well below their market value!

Both farm suppliers and customers expect farmers to absorb the extra cost increases that both sides have yet do not seem to understand that this is just not sustainable for farmers to be able to do for very long!
Said that beef couldn't go to £5 for same reason.
 

Welderloon

Member
Trade
There has been talk of large central distribution hubs & only a few smaller 'remote' service locations for a while now from the various 'big' manufacturers, the lack of subsidy will only accelerate this.
It will be who is tied to the mothership & who is not?
You'll spec your machine on the web, send the spec to the mothership, part payment will be taken, machine will be manufactured, delivered to the distribution hub, PDI'd then fed out to the nearest remote service location where you will collect - no salesman or dealer boss to have a cup of tea & biscuit with, only a chat-bot when you spec it up & a manufacturer tech to hand over the service schedule.
 

hoff135

Member
Location
scotland
Sheep prices have risen quite a bit recently...

But all you see on FB is the butchers saying lamb is now too expensive, they cannot stock it, it needs to be cheaper as they have high costs running their shops etc etc and can farmers help them out by selling them lambs well below their market value!

Both farm suppliers and customers expect farmers to absorb the extra cost increases that both sides have yet do not seem to understand that this is just not sustainable for farmers to be able to do for very long!
Every time prices jump up which they usually do every few years, the benefits are short lived, farmers soon go looking to invest some of the money to avoid the huge tax bill (understandable) demand increases and everything goes up in price and its back to square one.
 
The endgame here is one CNH, JD, Agco, super dealer for UK.
Try and buy a Case tractor or combine in the Prairie Provinces in Canada, without involving Rocky Mountain Equipment, to see where this is going.

And maybe that is the natural end-point of where things should end up? What rule book says there should be a CNH dealer in even every county? There is none.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
There has been talk of large central distribution hubs & only a few smaller 'remote' service locations for a while now from the various 'big' manufacturers, the lack of subsidy will only accelerate this.
It will be who is tied to the mothership & who is not?
You'll spec your machine on the web, send the spec to the mothership, part payment will be taken, machine will be manufactured, delivered to the distribution hub, PDI'd then fed out to the nearest remote service location where you will collect - no salesman or dealer boss to have a cup of tea & biscuit with, only a chat-bot when you spec it up & a manufacturer tech to hand over the service schedule.
Does this type of system not already exist with JD forestry equipment?

Same with large plant brands . Finnings control CAT sales and service
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
There has been talk of large central distribution hubs & only a few smaller 'remote' service locations for a while now from the various 'big' manufacturers, the lack of subsidy will only accelerate this.
It will be who is tied to the mothership & who is not?
You'll spec your machine on the web, send the spec to the mothership, part payment will be taken, machine will be manufactured, delivered to the distribution hub, PDI'd then fed out to the nearest remote service location where you will collect - no salesman or dealer boss to have a cup of tea & biscuit with, only a chat-bot when you spec it up & a manufacturer tech to hand over the service schedule.
Doesnt surprise me in the slightest this.
Ive often thought if the maker is so clever & everything they produce so perfect & without faults why dont they run the dealerships themselves & see the real world out there & get far more involved when stuff aint going as smoothly.
 

britishblue

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
Went into Lloyds the other day! New entrance with automatic doors ,massive roller doors for getting the display items in and a lady sitting at the desk wished me good morning! Presume she is there to answer phone! Went straight to stores where 4 storepersons were sitting computing,chatting etc! Got my goods but left thinking that my small purchase had a hell of a lot of overheads! I have been told what the new entrance cost but don't want to repeat it as nobody would believe me:oops:
 
I think it is.

Visited Farols JD dealership at Newark in December and was very impressed and thought the concept made sense.


Ultimately you really need a guy in a truck who works from home selling the stuff and several well trained and well paid guys with big vans full of gear who can maintain the stuff. As you say the forestry and mining equipment isn't hauled back to a dealership every time it needs fixing, they are only carted back when they enter a re-man phase in which case they have to go right back to the factory.
 

Welderloon

Member
Trade
Went into Lloyds the other day! New entrance with automatic doors ,massive roller doors for getting the display items in and a lady sitting at the desk wished me good morning! Presume she is there to answer phone! Went straight to stores where 4 storepersons were sitting computing,chatting etc! Got my goods but left thinking that my small purchase had a hell of a lot of overheads! I have been told what the new entrance cost but don't want to repeat it as nobody would believe me:oops:
Yes & who's paying for all that?
 

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
Sheep prices have risen quite a bit recently...

But all you see on FB is the butchers saying lamb is now too expensive, they cannot stock it, it needs to be cheaper as they have high costs running their shops etc etc and can farmers help them out by selling them lambs well below their market value!

Both farm suppliers and customers expect farmers to absorb the extra cost increases that both sides have yet do not seem to understand that this is just not sustainable for farmers to be able to do for very long!

I heard butchers say lamb was to expensive when lambs were £120 so 'pinch of salt'

if they stop buying then the price should drop logically.....then again the national flock is at lowest since 2012 and contracted 1000 ewes/day last year
 

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