The Wild Card

Walterp · Oct 23, 2017

Ruth Davidson is the only Conservative able to lead her party out of their 1950's time-warp: the UK has changed, irretrievably, and she appeals directly to today's socially-liberal electorate.

Witty and truthful, she famously ran through a field of wheat to mock Theresa May and - when the journalists asked what was the naughtiest thing she had ever done - declared that she "had inhaled".

Just to make sure the Brexit bulllies choked on their own bile, she added for good measure that she wasn't sure whether the Conservatives are ready for "a drippingly wet, pro-immigrant, lesbian Scot".

In your face politics, the only antidote to Jeremy Corbyn.

More to life · Oct 23, 2017

Totally agree how do you find a safe seat in Scotland ?

turbo · Oct 23, 2017

Walterp said:
Ruth Davidson is the only Conservative able to lead her party out of their 1950's time-warp: the UK has changed, irretrievably, and she appeals directly to today's socially-liberal electorate.

Witty and truthful, she famously ran through a field of wheat to mock Theresa May and - when the journalists asked what was the naughtiest thing she had ever done - declared that she "had inhaled".

Just to make sure the Brexit bulllies choked on their own bile, she added for good measure that she wasn't sure whether the Conservatives are ready for "a drippingly wet, pro-immigrant, lesbian Scot".

In your face politics, the only antidote to Jeremy Corbyn.

Your liberal wishy washy time is over,it's either hard left or right from now on

Pond digger · Oct 23, 2017

I find Mrs May quite innocuous; a fine quality in a PM.

Pond digger · Oct 23, 2017

Walterp said:
Ruth Davidson is the only Conservative able to lead her party out of their 1950's time-warp: the UK has changed, irretrievably, and she appeals directly to today's socially-liberal electorate.

Witty and truthful, she famously ran through a field of wheat to mock Theresa May and - when the journalists asked what was the naughtiest thing she had ever done - declared that she "had inhaled".

Just to make sure the Brexit bulllies choked on their own bile, she added for good measure that she wasn't sure whether the Conservatives are ready for "a drippingly wet, pro-immigrant, lesbian Scot".

In your face politics, the only antidote to Jeremy Corbyn.

“Brexit bullies”! :scratchhead:

RobFZS · Oct 23, 2017

She's nosediving in the poll's so it wont do the trick

Pond digger · Oct 23, 2017

RobFZS said:
She's nosediving in the poll's so it wont do the trick

So was JC not that long ago.

RobFZS · Oct 23, 2017

Pond digger said:
So was JC not that long ago.

Jezza is also an Mp, she is not and it would all be seen as dodgy if she was parachuted in

If the tories need a wet lib dem to win for them, they might aswell stop being called the conservatives, the only reason she does well in Scotland is because she's the loud mouthed opposition and union voice to Sturgeon, and going on the polling of about 500 tory councillers, she wouldn't win in the leadership election

More to life · Oct 23, 2017

RobFZS said:
Jezza is also an Mp, she is not and it would all be seen as dodgy if she was parachuted in

If the tories need a wet lib dem to win for them, they might aswell stop being called the conservatives, the only reason she does well in Scotland is because she's the loud mouthed opposition and union voice to Sturgeon, and going on the polling of about 500 tory councillers, she wouldn't win in the leadership election

You miss the key point she is electable to the general public it's hard to see anyone else who is.

Clever Dic · Oct 23, 2017

Walterp said:
Ruth Davidson is the only Conservative able to lead her party out of their 1950's time-warp: the UK has changed, irretrievably, and she appeals directly to today's socially-liberal electorate.

Witty and truthful, she famously ran through a field of wheat to mock Theresa May and - when the journalists asked what was the naughtiest thing she had ever done - declared that she "had inhaled".

Just to make sure the Brexit bulllies choked on their own bile, she added for good measure that she wasn't sure whether the Conservatives are ready for "a drippingly wet, pro-immigrant, lesbian Scot".

In your face politics, the only antidote to Jeremy Corbyn.

Not really sure all Brexiteters are bullies, anti immigrant, heterosexual , english and right wing.
Still you like assuptions .

RobFZS · Oct 23, 2017

More to life said:
You miss the key point she is electable to the general public it's hard to see anyone else who is.

For different reasons, she's finished if Scottish Labour get her act together

i thought she was the show winner a few months back and then saw where her support actually was, and the reality of her becoming leader and it ain't going to happen, just like David Miliband for Labour

Britain Elects‏ @britainelects Oct 13
Scottish Westminster voting intention: SNP: 40% (+3) LAB: 30% (+3) CON: 23% (-6) LDEM: 5% (-2) via @YouGov, 02 - 05 Oct Chgs w GE result

Ashtree · Oct 23, 2017

RobFZS said:
For different reasons, she's finished if Scottish Labour get her act together

i thought she was the show winner a few months back and then saw where her support actually was, and the reality of her becoming leader and it ain't going to happen, just like David Miliband for Labour

Britain Elects‏ @britainelects Oct 13
Scottish Westminster voting intention: SNP: 40% (+3) LAB: 30% (+3) CON: 23% (-6) LDEM: 5% (-2) via @YouGov, 02 - 05 Oct Chgs w GE result

Nobody but nobody even marginally sane would want to become leader of Tories. From start to finish they are swimming against an ebbing and flowing tide all at the same time. Way more time has to be spent herding the Tory cats than getting anything done policy wise never mind governing the country never mind at all trying to do a Brexit deal.
Best thing a sensible Tory party would now do is call an election and immediately throw in the towel. Give the damn hot potato to Corbyn. That should put him and labour away for about ten elections thereafter.

RobFZS · Oct 23, 2017

Ashtree said:
Nobody but nobody even marginally sane would want to become leader of Tories. From start to finish they are swimming against an ebbing and flowing tide all at the same time. Way more time has to be spent herding the Tory cats than getting anything done policy wise never mind governing the country never mind at all trying to do a Brexit deal.
Best thing a sensible Tory party would now do is call an election and immediately throw in the towel. Give the damn hot potato to Corbyn. That should put him and labour away for about ten elections thereafter.

They all seem to be out of their depth, pretty much why brexit needs to happen so they stop slacking on the job

wanton dwarf · Oct 23, 2017

RobFZS said:
They all seem to be out of their depth, pretty much why brexit needs to happen so they stop slacking on the job

Exactly ... the public hand Westminster the control of the UK and MP's all at once throw up their hands in horror.

Why are MP's in Westminster which cannot do the job ?

Will be very interested in how Jeremy Corbyn justifies his U turn on the manifesto.

RobFZS · Oct 23, 2017

wanton dwarf said:
Exactly ... the public hand Westminster the control of the UK and MP's all at once throw up their hands in horror.

Why are MP's in Westminster which cannot do the job ?

Will be very interested in how Jeremy Corbyn justifies his U turn on the manifesto.

It's mostly because it's a popularity contest and they expect all the back office staff to do the research and policy creation now

JohnGalway · Oct 23, 2017

RobFZS said:
They all seem to be out of their depth, pretty much why brexit needs to happen so they stop slacking on the job

I'm just curious, but how does this work. Ye have national elections anyway.

Walterp · Oct 23, 2017

Ashtree said:
Nobody but nobody even marginally sane would want to become leader of Tories. From start to finish they are swimming against an ebbing and flowing tide all at the same time. Way more time has to be spent herding the Tory cats than getting anything done policy wise never mind governing the country never mind at all trying to do a Brexit deal.
Best thing a sensible Tory party would now do is call an election and immediately throw in the towel. Give the damn hot potato to Corbyn. That should put him and labour away for about ten elections thereafter.

I challenge this view - there is, perhaps, no 'Brexit deal' to be had at all.

Donald Tusk was, I suspect, correct to call it as a simple choice of 'Hard Brexit or No Brexit' at the outset: the UK electorate has been led to believe that there is a 'deal' obtainable, but there is in fact neither the time nor the political appetite for one.

The 'negotiations' are, on this view, merely a process of discovery of this fact.

Clever Dic · Oct 23, 2017

Walterp said:
But it describes you nicely, though...

You certainly have proved my point @Walterp about liking assumptions.

However unlikely to you I drove a lorry twice to Bosnia to a refugee camp (Muslim) with Notts police .Have more gay friends than maybe you have friends and hope I am open enough to see the good in anyone of any persuasion,country or creed not important.
I dont loathe anyone because of where they are born.!

Henarar · Oct 24, 2017

Clever Dic said:
I dont loathe anyone because of where they are born.!

Should hope not
But there are those about that do
But luckily most can think their way past that

turbo · Oct 24, 2017

Walterp said:
I challenge this view - there is, perhaps, no 'Brexit deal' to be had at all.

Donald Tusk was, I suspect, correct to call it as a simple choice of 'Hard Brexit or No Brexit' at the outset: the UK electorate has been led to believe that there is a 'deal' obtainable, but there is in fact neither the time nor the political appetite for one.

The 'negotiations' are, on this view, merely a process of discovery of this fact.

The penny finally dropped as it walt

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