Cultivator drill

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Pronto goes down same pipe,spirit goes down cultivation discs,ours is getting changed to put fert down the seed discs
The fert is hard on the bearings for disc's we've found. Our Amazon just blows fert onto ground and following harrow covers it up. Got one where it folds got grain and fert on same pipe and it's gone bearing twice.

We've drilled side by side with ph combi and horsch where it goes down same pipe and no difference in emergence or crop yield.

We've demoed both machines and preferred the vaderstad.
 

Bobthebuilder

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
northumberland
Just looking at the options really. Only issues we have had with it are coulters breaking off (newer legs much stronger) and punctures (not exactly a 5 minute job to sort, especially the middle tyres).

It would also be nice if they had some spacers between coulter bearing and disc. Then as disc wears, can take spacers out and get a lot more life out of the disc.

We also have had a few coulters breaking off [emoji57] but then the speed when drilling if you hit a stone something has to give, you can get spacers in the discs so as they wear you can take a couple of washers out to tighten the gap between discs, it’s not cheap but foam filling the tyres would stop punctures
 

Iben

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fife
Good to hear they have spacers now, there are none on mine. The newer coulters are much stronger, have never broken one of them.

Considered foam filling the middle tyres, but was advised not to as makes it a bit harder to pull and they don't self clean as well.

The fertiliser is very corrosive to the machine. Considering a grain only one and fit a liquid fert tank on front of the tractor with distrubiter pipes on the back of the coulter.

Staggered press wheels would probably also be good.
 

General-Lee

Member
Location
Devon
Don’t think we’ll ever get a grain/fert drill so probably won’t need to worry do you (and how you go about it!) clean it regularly? As I do our spinner religiously every day after use.
 

HAM135

Member
Arable Farmer
This is the G+F drill we are putting away for the spirit,2008 washed and oiled after every season,never had to replace any bearings.
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casemx 270

Member
Location
East midlands
There were quite a few rapids around here 10-15 years ago, were nicknamed the steamroller!

As ham says, if soil not in perfect condition at sowing, they packed the soil and gave poor emergence. Or crop failure if rain between sowing and emergence.

Coulters after the press wheels are much more successful.
We ve drilled all our wheat and barley this year with the rapid some of it in very wet heavy soils our crops this autumn looking fantastic can't fault the drill
 

Farmernickt

Member
Location
The Fens
Good to hear they have spacers now, there are none on mine. The newer coulters are much stronger, have never broken one of them.

Considered foam filling the middle tyres, but was advised not to as makes it a bit harder to pull and they don't self clean as well.

The fertiliser is very corrosive to the machine. Considering a grain only one and fit a liquid fert tank on front of the tractor with distrubiter pipes on the back of the coulter.

Staggered press wheels would probably also be good.

I was doing some development work with someone who tragically passed away, we had been getting some very good results from the liquid fert. Have you considered some of the anti puncture gunk in the tyres instead of the foam? That way you’d keep all the tyre characteristics you need.
 

Iben

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fife
I was doing some development work with someone who tragically passed away, we had been getting some very good results from the liquid fert. Have you considered some of the anti puncture gunk in the tyres instead of the foam? That way you’d keep all the tyre characteristics you need.

Where did you place the fertiliser? Ideal would be to pipe it back to each coulter. But do wonder if a spray bar under the tank would also work? Much simpler system. Fertiliser would get mixed in, but shouldn't be to far from the seed.
 

Deere 6430

Member
Thought it was a good drill, the farm bought it, although the farm is not in this country. I drove it on ploughing and mintill, followed the plough on quite a few fields and it made a very tidy job. It wasn’t a fertiliser one just seed. Very manoeuvrable and liked to crack on 15kph plus to get it to really sing. Doesn’t take very much power for the size and speed though due to how it’s made. Any thing else ask away.
 

Iben

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fife
Thought it was a good drill, the farm bought it, although the farm is not in this country. I drove it on ploughing and mintill, followed the plough on quite a few fields and it made a very tidy job. It wasn’t a fertiliser one just seed. Very manoeuvrable and liked to crack on 15kph plus to get it to really sing. Doesn’t take very much power for the size and speed though due to how it’s made. Any thing else ask away.

What did you think of build quality? Do you feel it would bury seed in rough conditions?
Was control box easy to use? Simple to calibrate?

Thanks
 

Deere 6430

Member
Build quality seemed good, it was brand new when i drove it but I’ve seen it since when I go over for harvest and it hasn’t any welding on it. They do look after the equipment though, I’m sure with a rough operator anything can be smashed up. It buried the seed in quite rough conditions when we followed the plough but as said made a very tidy job, that would be the roughest I’ve used it in. It all came up well and looked really good in the spring. Control box was the same as Sulky spreader so I was use to it, probably take a few times to get use to it if you were new but then it depends how technically minded you are I guess, I don’t know if they have made any changes to the control box either. Calibration was similar to other drills and i cant remember any issues. Drilled wheat and barley.

I would ring David Guy in France (the manager of the company) direct and have a chat with him, he’s very very helpful.

There are some blue Sulky maxi drills about in the UK so maybe someone might be able to offer their opinion.

I can definitely say that Sky machines get my vote as I run a Sky drill and it is a super bit of kit
 

ktc

Member
We had a rapid and moved to a spirit. Main problem we had with the spirit was the wheels. In sticky conditions the stubble or potato stalks would gather behind the wheels and lock them up. Took off scrapers and it helped but it was definitely a problem. Also the tank on spirit is very flat and I often found on hilly ground going down hill, it would say hopper empty and when you look in there could be 100kg sitting on the front of the hopper. We bought a horsch and definitely wouldn't go back!
 

RLC

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
With all drills it’s what happens with the weather after the seed is planted I think. Rapid still gets my vote. Perfect seed placement and great against slugs compared to other style drills. Even in less than ideal conditions, if you think how you and where should drive results are great! Drilled most fields with double headlands this time and come up well!
 

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