The continuing drop in the price of SSD drives

Pheasant Surprise · Jan 8, 2019

Just had an email pop in from eBuyer for Samsung 860 EVO SATA 6gb/s drives. I rate Samsung memory and drives pretty highly for reliability and bang for buck.

Can’t belive how much they have dropped in price, both in absolute price and cost per GB.

Had a search in my emails and found the absolute price of these drives has dropped to around 1/3 the level it was in 2014 (that’s on Samsung 840 EVO Sata 6 gb/s drives, so directly comparable)

Wish machinery would do the same!!

ollie989898 · Jan 8, 2019

What is the going rate for a Samsung EVO 1TB drive now?

Mine cost me £300 originally.

Samsung drives are good, their nand is pretty good but their own controllers are first rate. Only intel make better drives. The idea that you would wear out an SSD eventually is a myth. They did some read/write testing of these drives a couple of years ago and they didn't begin to die until they had reached insane levels of writes and reads, like hundreds of TBs.

Pheasant Surprise · Jan 8, 2019

ollie989898 said:
What is the going rate for a Samsung EVO 1TB drive now?

Mine cost me £300 originally.

Samsung drives are good, their nand is pretty good but their own controllers are first rate. Only intel make better drives. The idea that you would wear out an SSD eventually is a myth. They did some read/write testing of these drives a couple of years ago and they didn't begin to die until they had reached insane levels of writes and reads, like hundreds of TBs.

£154.97 according to the email I got today. When did you buy yours?

The largest drive they did/or at least I found advertised in 2014 was 750GB and that was over £300 back then.

ollie989898 · Jan 8, 2019

Bought mine August 2014 straight off Amazon.

Jim B · Jan 8, 2019

That’s interesting, it obviously hasn’t translated to Apple yet!!! Just bought wife a MacBook Air, cost to upgrade 128 GB SSD to 256 GB was £180!

Are there any NAS compatible SSDs? An SSD would surely help read write performance here despite wireless speeds?

Or is everyone and everything going to cloud based storage these days?

Pheasant Surprise · Jan 8, 2019

Jim B said:
Are there any NAS compatible SSDs? An SSD would surely help read write performance here despite wireless speeds?

Using SSDs is a very expensive way to build a NAS and unless your home network is something like the Google HQ there are basic speed limitations in the network and way NAS operates that would not let you see the benefit of the drives.

You're much better off spending your money on NAS specific mechanical/rotating drives.

Jim B · Jan 8, 2019

Pheasant Surprise said:
Using SSDs is a very expensive way to build a NAS and unless your home network is something like the Google HQ there are basic speed limitations in the network and way NAS operates that would not let you see the benefit of the drives.

You're much better off spending your money on NAS specific mechanical/rotating drives.

With thousands of high resolution DSLR RAW images a NAS can get a bit frustrating!

Not a problem initially as working on the local SSD, but when I have to find something archived on the NAS it can take some time finding!

Anyway sorry to go a little OT.

SSDs to take over completely in 5 years?

ollie989898 · Jan 9, 2019

Jim B said:
That’s interesting, it obviously hasn’t translated to Apple yet!!! Just bought wife a MacBook Air, cost to upgrade 128 GB SSD to 256 GB was £180!

Are there any NAS compatible SSDs? An SSD would surely help read write performance here despite wireless speeds?

Or is everyone and everything going to cloud based storage these days?

That's Apple for you= marketing and a pretty box containing the very same bits at higher prices, though MS and their surface products are not far off.

Intel are working on some kind of memory which combines the speed of RAM but with the persistency of NAND, last I heard it was way way off but imagine turning your PC on and the operating system is already in memory, that would be pretty cool.

I agree for NAS you need NAS specific drives, Western digital make some dead sexy mechanical NAS drives, ultra reliable.

The only mechanical HDD in this house now is the one connected to the back of our smart TV. Both PCs are SSD.

Cloud storage is fine provided you have high speed internet and don't store anything sensitive on it in my view. The odd picture of my kids or my wife in not a lot of clothes I am fine with but I would not use it to store financial information or information belonging to clients, for example.

Pheasant Surprise · Jan 9, 2019

Jim B said:
With thousands of high resolution DSLR RAW images a NAS can get a bit frustrating!

Not a problem initially as working on the local SSD, but when I have to find something archived on the NAS it can take some time finding!

Anyway sorry to go a little OT.

SSDs to take over completely in 5 years?

Rather than a generic NAS, if you are shifting large volumes of big files off your main hard drive onto an “archive” device, in my humble opinion for best performance you’re better off looking at a directly connected drive array, not via LAN.

Direct connection will offer you much better throughout via a dedicated channel and a drive array means you can speed up data transfer by (a) spreading disk writes across multiple drives in a RAID style “stripe” set and (b) using a combination of battery backed RAM cache and SSD to cache information for rapid access to the main drives.

Some higher end NAS drives can optionally do this, but your still encumbered with the network overhead - and really you want to be using multiple dedicated gigabit Ethernet ports aggregated to get best throughout.

Direct connected is better. It’s been a good few years since I’ve played with this so not completely up with what’s the lastest and best bang for buck direct connect technology @ home - I expect its USB 3.0 rather than FireWire now. There I’m showing my age.

wilber · Jan 17, 2019

Jim B said:
That’s interesting, it obviously hasn’t translated to Apple yet!!! Just bought wife a MacBook Air, cost to upgrade 128 GB SSD to 256 GB was £180!

You had your pants pulled down and you were thoroughly shafted from the rear.

That size SSD would cost £30 - £40. MacBook's do not use a special type of SSD either if thats what you might be thinking.

Clive · Jan 17, 2019

I just bought a new PC for an additional work station in the office - i7 quad core 3.4ghz 16gb ram 500ssd and w10 pro for £250 !

that's a fairly pokey PC for the money IMO now

Still Farming · Jan 17, 2019

Chinese is it all ?

wilber · Jan 17, 2019

Clive said:
I just bought a new PC for an additional work station in the office - i7 quad core 3.4ghz 16gb ram 500ssd and w10 pro for £250 !

that's a fairly pokey PC for the money IMO now

Very, what generation i7 for curiosities sake.

Clive · Jan 17, 2019

Still Farming said:
Chinese is it all ?

HP

Clive · Jan 17, 2019

wilber said:
Very, what generation i7 for curiosities sake.

gen 3 i7

Model: Z220 Workstation Storage Type: Select from options
Operating System Edition: Professional Processor Type: Intel Core i7 3rd Gen.
Modified Item: No Brand: HP
Graphics Processing Type: Integrated/On-Board Graphics Non-Domestic Product: No
Custom Bundle: No Form Factor: Small Form Factor (SFF)
Product Line: Workstation Hardware Connectivity: VGA, Display Port, USB 2.0, USB 3.0
Processor Speed: 3.40GHz SSD Capacity: Select from options
Features: Optical Drive Screen Size: None
Memory: 8GB or 16GB or 0GB (Select from options) Operating System: Select from options
MPN: C5Y75UP

Timbo · Jan 17, 2019

Clive said:
HP

Where from ?

Clive · Jan 17, 2019

Timbo said:
Where from ?

ebay rather surprisingly

Spear · Jan 17, 2019

@Clive refurbished? Or new?

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