Farmer fined for insecure load

milkloss · Jun 14, 2019

Fendt516profi said:
2 straps front to back per row? Or two straps total? Reading between the lines but I can see one going front to back over the far row of bales and one going over every column apart from the front seems strange to me that he would leave the field like that. Maybe they were removed and loader was following and bale put back on. Showing he was trying to rectify the problem got him less of a fine. I once tipped a trailer of muck on a roundabout got the trailer righted and was refilling it the police car never even stopped.

puppet said:
I can't believe he strapped every bale except the front one. It also looks like he has a strap front to back at the far side. At a recent DVSA course you need to ensure the load cannot go forward, back or sideways. Assuming those straps were in place then he possibly had done everything he could.
Maybe daft to leave the scene if a strap had broken rather than stay and explain

The reason I edited my post. There’s no straps going from front to back. The one at the front that appears to be going front to back actually went side to side over the front bales. I really don’t like the back bale, that one needed a front to back strap.

silverfox said:
Square bales are the answer . Why folks bother with rounds if they’ve got to transport them on the road is beyond me.
You’d think bale trailers would be made with some sort of hydraulic gate on the side, that lifted up when loaded

Different shape bales have their uses. Rounds are good in the wet, spread easier, bakers cheaper etc etc.

Suckers won’t be paying for a hydraulic bale trailer anytime soon! You also open a can of worms, what if a hydraulic pipe fails? You’ll need locking latches etc etc.

Henarar · Jun 14, 2019

An Gof said:
The old skills of tying what in these parts we call a waggoners hitch are dying out fast. My Granfer taught me, but now it’s all ratchet straps .....: and I have to say that that is an improvement

this didn't fall off

An Gof · Jun 14, 2019

Henarar said:
this didn't fall offView attachment 809852

Tidy load

Fendt516profi · Jun 14, 2019

Henarar said:
this didn't fall offView attachment 809852

Where is the 3rd round they must of all fallen off

Fendt516profi · Jun 14, 2019

milkloss said:
The reason I edited my post. There’s no straps going from front to back. The one at the front that appears to be going front to back actually went side to side over the front bales. I really don’t like the back bale, that one needed a front to back strap.

Different shape bales have their uses. Rounds are good in the wet, spread easier, bakers cheaper etc etc.

Suckers won’t be paying for a hydraulic bale trailer anytime soon! You also open a can of worms, what if a hydraulic pipe fails? You’ll need locking latches etc etc.

Will the rams not have check valves on Incase a pipe burst

Suffolk Serf · Jun 14, 2019

Fendt516profi said:
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Something like this

I got one like that a few years ago and wouldn’t be without it.
I was prompted after losing some bales on the road and getting away with it. I felt that next time I (or an innocent other road user) might not be so lucky.
It makes bale carting much less stressful.

Nearly · Jun 14, 2019

straw bales silly trailer load round (2).jpg

milkloss · Jun 14, 2019

Fendt516profi said:
Will the rams not have check valves on Incase a pipe burst

I guess they would. Fair point.

Fendt516profi · Jun 14, 2019

Suffolk Serf said:
I got one like that a few years ago and wouldn’t be without it.
I was prompted after losing some bales on the road and getting away with it. I felt that next time I (or an innocent other road user) might not be so lucky.
It makes bale carting much less stressful.

If you don't mind what kind of money was it no doubt dearer now. I am thinking of getting one wouldn't go a double 2nd row without. Do you put some riders on third course down middle

Larel · Jun 14, 2019

kiwi pom said:
My eyes might be wonky but it looks like the drivers out of the cab and rolling the bale out of the way (he's hardly going to chuck it back on) I suppose then you crack on to where you're going, then come back with a loader?

I think he might have noticed because it says it came off and hit the cab.

Not hay related but I once lost a 5l tin of Dulux Weathershield gloss (White) off the back of my motorbike. It hit the ground in front of a (soon not to be) maroon fiesta, whitening it from the bumper to the bonnet, windscreen and roof. To compound the problem she immediately hit the wipers. I drove on for another 6 miles to get home finding I was minus my tin of paint retraced my steps hoping to find it intact at the side of the road. Wish I hadn't, I felt duty bound to stop and own up to the poor woman in the car. 4 gallons of thinners later and her car was back to maroon! Chat with a PC, and a bill from the body shop for cleaning the car and I got off without a fine or conviction.

JP1 · Jun 14, 2019

An Gof said:
The old skills of tying what in these parts we call a waggoners hitch are dying out fast. My Granfer taught me, but now it’s all ratchet straps .....: and I have to say that that is an improvement

The trouble with bales especially round ones is the ratchet or rope goes slack after a bit of movement on the road, no matter how good you can tie a dolly or a self tightening barrel knot

Fendt516profi · Jun 14, 2019

JP1 said:
The trouble with bales especially round ones is the ratchet or rope goes slack after a bit of movement on the road, no matter how good you can tie a dolly or a self tightening barrel knot

That's where I think the hydraulic sides are onto a good thing plus the time saved in strapping the load and stopping to retighten when the loads settled in

Cowcalf · Jun 14, 2019

JP1 said:
The trouble with bales especially round ones is the ratchet or rope goes slack after a bit of movement on the road, no matter how good you can tie a dolly or a self tightening barrel knot

If bales are on there end 3 high and reasonably well made bales the straps do not pull in anything to worry about, moved thousands of bales on 40 - 45 foot trailers with no problems behind trucks and tractors

spin cycle · Jun 14, 2019

Nearly said:
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feck...i mean feck

JJT · Jun 14, 2019

Nearly said:
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And the top round is set in tieing the bottom ones on so no need to strap either

Fendt516profi · Jun 14, 2019

Just asked dealer and hydraulic sides are £2600ish extra doesn't sound to bad to me not as much as I thought they might be

roscoe erf · Jun 14, 2019

they look heavy bales the way he is struggling to roll that one

milkloss · Jun 14, 2019

JP1 said:
The trouble with bales especially round ones is the ratchet or rope goes slack after a bit of movement on the road, no matter how good you can tie a dolly or a self tightening barrel knot

Always retighten mine after a short duration even if big squares. Surprising how much more you can get.

JP1 · Jun 14, 2019

milkloss said:
Always retighten mine after a short duration even if big squares. Surprising how much more you can get.

But how many do especially straps as you run out of bite unless you undo them again

Fendt516profi · Jun 14, 2019

roscoe erf said:
they look heavy bales the way he is struggling to roll that one

Didn't get away with just£100 fine looks like he broke back mudguard and maybe lightsl

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