Thinking of getting a Charollais.........am I completely bonkers?.......

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The ‘chihuahua thing’ would depend on what your ram breeder has been breeding. I lamb Highlanders outside to Charollais in April and I do not get any of those types of lambs at all these days. Perhaps you might out of your Charollais x ewes......

Those thin skinned types have no place here, not least because i’d Struggle to sell them.
It will also depend on what is in the background of the tup. In the past, the offspring of Charollais tups with well covered heads would be lambing away quite happily, plenty of cover etc etc, when, bang, a run of chihuahua lambs. It may sit a generation or two back, but it can rear it's head when you don't want it.
 
A wee left field suggestion........ a good growthy aberfield?

Ewe lambs perfect for keeping in the flock, wethers are nice, white faced,tight skinned lambs easily grade r and u or make nice lambs to sell in the store ring.

Hardy little buggers at lambing too
I want these tups to mostly cover Scotch Mules though Bob, so I don't think that the Aberfield is going to work that way crossed. What do you put them on?
 
There isn't too much difference between the Mule, and a 1st cross Lleyn. Tighter skin, white face (obviously), better control of her bag - you'll lose the blown tits and udders trailing on the ground! Similar size but smaller appetite and hold their condition well. Very good mothers, too.
What blown tits and trailing udders ? There are no blown tits and trailing udders in this flock, so it's not an issue needing addressed.

And it doesn't need addressed because we've always taken care in our breeding policy to avoid this. It's not compulsory by any means.

If you will buy enormous, bone headed Blue tups, and Blackie ewes off farms where they place no importance on anything other than the hair on their head, and the angle of their horn, then you might well end up with the sheep you're talking about.

Some of the rest of us aspire to other traits though.:angelic::pompous:
 
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andybk

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basically if you want 4t to the are there will be compromises charollais maybe bit soft need landing indoors or shelter though all we sold to NZ all lambs outdoors last 3 seasons trexel slower growing maybe lambing issues horses for courses every breed has a downside just down to what your happy to live with
 

Nithsdale

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What blown tits and trailing udders ? There are no blown tits and trailing udders in this flock, so it's not an issue needing addressed.

And it doesn't need addressed because we've always taken care in our breeding policy to avoid this. It's not compulsory by any means.

If you will buy enormous, bone headed Blue tups, and Blackie ewes off farms where they place no importance on anything other than the hair on their head, and the angle of their horn, then you might well end up with the sheep you're talking about.

Some of the rest of us aspire to other traits though.:angelic::pompous:


Sadly, speaking to many who still run mules only (so have to buy in each year) lack of udder control and blown tits is a problem in Scotch Mules once they get to 3-4 crop. As is the occurrence of mastitis.

In a (cross)breed, bred for colour markings to win show&sale - the deterioration of functional traits is inevitable.

I suppose you're flock will be more immune to that sort of thing, as you don't breed to sell. Too few breed them like they should be these days
 

glensman

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Nice sheep @glensman . Are Lleyns new to you, or have you used them before? (y)
We've been using them for the last couple of years and intend to go all lleyn with texel crossed in every so often. I like them for a number of reasons, they are excellent on their feet with good skins, very good mothers with loads of milk but have a nice tidy bag and teats. They're going to allow us to breed our own replacements in a straight forward way with a consistent type along with the texel. We've some texel/lleyn ewe lambs this year I'll get a few pics.
 

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