Water problem

valtraman

Member
At our other farm the water is a private supply from a spring source in field . The farmhouse there has lost pressure causing issues with the boiler functioning now have realised the cattle sheds have issues with not rising to level it used to no problem. There was a new 50mm plastic supply pipe put in 10 years ago I’ve suspected it has been crushed under farm road where it crosses , I have dug this section to indirect pipe and it is perfect no damage. Been to tank and tank is full with plenty of water flowing through. No signs anywhere of bursts or leaks . What is there I can get water pumped into these sheds I’m literally 2ft off the level I need to get too.
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
How does the water get to the tank from spring, is it gravity or pump fed?

Also, when you say tank has water flowing through, am I correct in thinking from spring to tank is OK, but tank to house, Barns is not?
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
you can always put a pressure booster pump on a tank at source, but, as you probably know, own water supplies are never really straight forward. We went from a spring/ resovoir system, to a borehole and pressure vessel, sounds nice and easy, but seem to get lots of little problems, what we should have done is replaced the whole system !
 

valtraman

Member
Yes it’s gravity fed from tank towards house/sheds. Bit complicated but 3/4 of the sheds are ran off another spring in next field and this one shed that won’t run water is only one one house supply. Ideally I would just connect the problem shed on to other supply but it doesn’t have as good as supply as other one and can run very low in a dry time. For simplicity I suppose running off one tank would be better so if I had a way of keeping other tank topped up or pumped fro other tank would be the thing. Next problem tank in middle of field so no power source
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
Airlock in the system? I have a spring fed gravity system at one of the farms and its forever getting airlocks somehow, possibly when excess demand lowers the tank too much and lets it in. Then by the time the issue is noticed the reservoir has fillen back up so looks OK. Are there any points further back up the line where you can open the gravity pipe up and see if its flowing full bore there?

I've found that even with a full head of water at a decent height, its very hard to get air pushed down the pipe by gravity alone. What I do is pump water back up the pipe from the bottom to push the air to the top. That always seems to cure my low flow/no flow problems.
 
Any sediment getting into the pipe?

My supply from my spring to the holding tank stopped altogether due to sediment (it then goes from this tank to a pumphouse with a pump and pressure vessel to supply the house). The water engineer who services the filters etc for me connected an air line and pump to the end of the alkathene and just blew it back out (In the direction of the spring about 150 metres away). It's run fine since then.
 

valtraman

Member
No sediment to speak of tank is crystal clear. Where I have dug pipe down near FB the house I have came across a joining but haven’t opened it up yet just in case I can’t get back together again . Looks big awkward stuff to work with
 

Farmer_Joe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
The North
my spring supply was gash pressure near my house so i built a boiler room (has my gshp in) with a 180l tank which is gravity fed from the spring on a ball valve, under the tank (sits at 6 ft high) i have a booster pump with built on pressure vessel set at 2 bar.

works well.

assuming it worked correctly before i would get a booster pump and feed pressure up the [pip to spring to clear the pipe
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
I’m not sure as supply is fair bit away from the water trough I’m trying to fill but probably won’t be a massive difference in the end

OK, so you may be possibly seeing the level of the current spring to tank. IF that is the case - you will need to pump water to the trough to get the level higher. If you can get power to the trough, you can add a negative pressure pump.
 

valtraman

Member
Bu
OK, so you may be possibly seeing the level of the current spring to tank. IF that is the case - you will need to pump water to the trough to get the level higher. If you can get power to the trough, you can add a negative pressure pump.
but why has it’s stopped rising to that level since may time when cattle were last in shed? I can definitely get power to the trough area but what kind of thing would I put on to suck it through?
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
Bu

but why has it’s stopped rising to that level since may time when cattle were last in shed? I can definitely get power to the trough area but what kind of thing would I put on to suck it through?

Can you take a photo to share, as it is quite difficult to picture your entire issue (source, pipework, tanks, trough etc) - as there may be something obvious.

If it were me, and you could get power to the trough, I would attache a water pump to the infeed pipe, then back syphon the pipe with clean water to see if there is a build up of detritus etc.

Your level could be being depleted by other sorces reducing the available level. Water tables can rise and fall depending upon demands, rainfall etc - but without actually seeing it in person, we are simpl trying to go through a lot of ideas unfortunately, but the good thing is there will be a solution.
 

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