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CollCrofter

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scotland
whats it got to do with them ?

As @AGN76 says. I had to DNA my heifers there and have their parentage verified. I only had 4 to do but I thought even the 4 at nearly £200 was quite expensive for all the tests. And I went onto Taurus to Birth Notify the bull calf born on Sunday but I ended up just registering him. So from now on all females at first calvings have to be tested and even if she drops a cross calve it still has to be birth notified to the society, which doesn't cost anything. You can Birth Notify pedigree calves and register them officially at a later date too. I'm no expert as I'm just playing around just now but surely DNAing both breeding females as well as males should be a standard for any pedigree society and would of avoided that shitshow that happened with Jaegerbomb
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
As @AGN76 says. I had to DNA my heifers there and have their parentage verified. I only had 4 to do but I thought even the 4 at nearly £200 was quite expensive for all the tests. And I went onto Taurus to Birth Notify the bull calf born on Sunday but I ended up just registering him. So from now on all females at first calvings have to be tested and even if she drops a cross calve it still has to be birth notified to the society, which doesn't cost anything. You can Birth Notify pedigree calves and register them officially at a later date too. I'm no expert as I'm just playing around just now but surely DNAing both breeding females as well as males should be a standard for any pedigree society and would of avoided that shitshow that happened with Jaegerbomb
Not happen for blues yet, there was talk of more testing but last time we registered some calves a couple months ago it was the same as ever
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Very embarrassing for the society that it was a board member. I wonder if they’d have been so lenient on us plebs?

Is that particularly lenient? Most of the flock now non-pedigree, a small fine (which I’m not sure how the society could enforce?) and, most punitive, their details openly published. Would you ever trust the pedigree of a sheep from them again?

I don’t see how the Society could have done any more really and it will be interesting to see how many more get found out now more DNA testing is being done. Well done to the Texel Society for not brushing it under the carpet like the BLCS tried to do.?
 

Ysgythan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
Is that particularly lenient? Most of the flock now non-pedigree, a small fine (which I’m not sure how the society could enforce?) and, most punitive, their details openly published. Would you ever trust the pedigree of a sheep from them again?

I don’t see how the Society could have done any more really and it will be interesting to see how many more get found out now more DNA testing is being done. Well done to the Texel Society for not brushing it under the carpet like the BLCS tried to do.?

It’s nowhere near what they did to a breeder two or three years ago for trimming.

I can’t believe they’re still allowed to be members of the society and register sheep, but I may be old fashioned.
 

Ysgythan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
Could have been worse, they could have done like the Lim Society and just ignored it (or to an extent encouraged it) and wait for an other body to cotton on to it and deal with it.

“Not being as bad as the Lims” is not a benchmark I think the Charity Commission has in mind. The integrity of the flock book is their primary, some would say sole, aim and they’ve flunked the first real challenge.
 

Celt83

Member
Livestock Farmer
Could have been worse, they could have done like the Lim Society and just ignored it (or to an extent encouraged it) and wait for an other body to cotton on to it and deal with it.
Perhaps because what has happened in the lim society that is why they have made this public announcement.

Like @Ysgythan said one was a board member! Is that abuse of power i'r is that over the top? How many more will come out of the woodwork?
 

CollCrofter

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scotland
I don't think it's fair to tar all Limmy breeders as crooks. Far from it. It will be the same with any pedigree society, be it cattle, sheep, goats, ducks, hens, geese or anything else... You'll always get one or two bad eggs and not to mention genuine mistakes.

But yes, the lim society should of acted swifter and quicker and asserted authority and it could of saved a lot of hassle for everyone involved and honest folk that might be inadvertently punished
 

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