Laurence Fox etc.

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
Any views on the new parties coming out? Reclaim / Heritage and probably more.

Seems to be a will to take back our country somewhat and I don't think it's a small movement. I figure they will get ignored by the big 2/ media until the next Brexit Party moment.
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Any views on the new parties coming out? Reclaim / Heritage and probably more.

Seems to be a will to take back our country somewhat and I don't think it's a small movement. I figure they will get ignored by the big 2/ media until the next Brexit Party moment.


He has been watching a rerun of his dad in Day of The Jackal and listening to that good story teller but bonkers politico Frederick Forsyth.
 
Any views on the new parties coming out? Reclaim / Heritage and probably more.

Seems to be a will to take back our country somewhat and I don't think it's a small movement. I figure they will get ignored by the big 2/ media until the next Brexit Party moment.


None ATM - Brexit Party mk 4 or 5 ?

If the Conservatives fail to give what Conservative voters want-ed then they may well look for an alternative. I doubt most can stomach Labour, Green or Liberal.
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
I think Boris got in on the Brexit deal and I reckon a lot of his voters are waiting to see if he get's that done or not before making further judgement. I think he's seen as weak over COVID and libertarians are not happy with the 'emergency' laws coming through. That said, there are some good things happening in the Civil service / BBC etc.
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
He will get portrayed as a right wing Hitler loving middle aged racist by the bbc and guardian, meanwhile the blm movement that want to destroy the police and democracy are idolised as heroes

Hardly old boy. Timed his run perfectly as the BBC becomes a right wing version and wing of the Tory Party machine under the new CEO. He will fit in perfectly after the ethnic cleansing of the luvvies.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
Boris knows that there is well over four million unemployed now already.
Most on furlough are only being paid unemployment benefit via subcontractors to the DHSS or whatever its called nowadays.
All the Covid 19 fog is just a cover, until the sh!t caused by it (the realisation by many many companies that their workforces are far in excess of requirements) hits the fan... Which can't happen until the new year.
Boris knows that getting Brexit done ensures a future for the Tory party and his self.
Covid 19 is a convenient diversion and time killer.
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
Boris knows that there is well over four million unemployed now already.
Most on furlough are only being paid unemployment benefit via subcontractors to the DHSS or whatever its called nowadays.
All the Covid 19 fog is just a cover, until the sh!t caused by it (the realisation by many many companies that their workforces are far in excess of requirements) hits the fan... Which can't happen until the new year.
Boris knows that getting Brexit done ensures a future for the Tory party and his self.
Covid 19 is a convenient diversion and time killer.
I think there is a good deal of truth in that.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Boris knows that there is well over four million unemployed now already.
Most on furlough are only being paid unemployment benefit via subcontractors to the DHSS or whatever its called nowadays.
All the Covid 19 fog is just a cover, until the sh!t caused by it (the realisation by many many companies that their workforces are far in excess of requirements) hits the fan... Which can't happen until the new year.
Boris knows that getting Brexit done ensures a future for the Tory party and his self.
Covid 19 is a convenient diversion and time killer.

Bozza has just started to realise he has to have a trade deal with the EU at whatever cost. Just a matter of how you sell it to the British public as a great victory with lots of future benefits. :scratchhead:
 

robs1

Member
Bozza has just started to realise he has to have a trade deal with the EU at whatever cost. Just a matter of how you sell it to the British public as a great victory with lots of future benefits. :scratchhead:
Or the EU have just realised they cant steamroller us as they did when may was in charge.
Both sides will have to make compromises to get a deal , any deal or decision the EU is ever involved in doesn't get done until the last day, the signs are there, Barnier is the problem, for both sides, he is the one who will lose face when Merkel makes him give some ground, of course macron is on his side over fishing and they have backed themselves into a corner,
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Or the EU have just realised they cant steamroller us as they did when may was in charge.
Both sides will have to make compromises to get a deal , any deal or decision the EU is ever involved in doesn't get done until the last day, the signs are there, Barnier is the problem, for both sides, he is the one who will lose face when Merkel makes him give some ground, of course macron is on his side over fishing and they have backed themselves into a corner,

The EU moved on long ago regarding Brexit, basically as soon as the WA was signed off, that's why they are somewhat annoyed at Bozza reneging on it. In their eyes a trade deal is just a nice to have item, simplifying to a small extent the massive amount of paperwork and controls that are now going to be generated and helping the situation in Ireland.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Or the EU have just realised they cant steamroller us as they did when may was in charge.
Both sides will have to make compromises to get a deal , any deal or decision the EU is ever involved in doesn't get done until the last day, the signs are there, Barnier is the problem, for both sides, he is the one who will lose face when Merkel makes him give some ground, of course macron is on his side over fishing and they have backed themselves into a corner,

The EU moved on long ago regarding Brexit, basically as soon as the WA was signed off, that's why they are somewhat annoyed at Bozza reneging on it. In their eyes a trade deal is just a nice to have item, simplifying to a small extent the massive amount of paperwork and controls that are now going to be generated and helping the situation in Ireland.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
The EU moved on long ago regarding Brexit, basically as soon as the WA was signed off, that's why they are somewhat annoyed at Bozza reneging on it. In their eyes a trade deal is just a nice to have item, simplifying to a small extent the massive amount of paperwork and controls that are now going to be generated and helping the situation in Ireland.
Sometimes, I am almost convinced you believe what you write about the EU. :ROFLMAO:
 

Raider112

Member
Or the EU have just realised they cant steamroller us as they did when may was in charge.
Both sides will have to make compromises to get a deal , any deal or decision the EU is ever involved in doesn't get done until the last day, the signs are there, Barnier is the problem, for both sides, he is the one who will lose face when Merkel makes him give some ground, of course macron is on his side over fishing and they have backed themselves into a corner,
This seems to cover things as they are now, May caused all sorts of damage to the prospect of a deal, whether it was deliberate or not, who knows.
All the chatter seems to be that a lot of Countries are against Macron's stubbornness on the fishing problem as most of them have nothing to gain from it and are getting twitchy.
Barnier revels in his reputation as a hard bargainer but is said to be getting leaned on by Germany, especially as their car industry stands to lose out massively.
Ashtree will no doubt be along soon to dismiss this with his usual sarcastic gloating.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
Bozza has just started to realise he has to have a trade deal with the EU at whatever cost. Just a matter of how you sell it to the British public as a great victory with lots of future benefits. :scratchhead:
A trade deal has nothing to do with the upcoming, unemployment sh!t storm caused by C19, both through the realisation that many employed have been surplus to requirement and the loss of many other non jobs, which do nothing to bring coin into the UK, but are rather just wealth sharing, charity jobbies.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
A trade deal has nothing to do with the upcoming, unemployment sh!t storm caused by C19, both through the realisation that many employed have been surplus to requirement and the loss of many other non jobs, which do nothing to bring coin into the UK, but are rather just wealth sharing, charity jobbies.
Eighty per cent of the UK gdp comes from the service sector, shuffling money about in non jobs. We may not wish to value their importance but unfortunately in a first world economy they are.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
Eighty per cent of the UK gdp comes from the service sector, shuffling money about in non jobs. We may not wish to value their importance but unfortunately in a first world economy they are.
Its only faux employment to massage the unemployment numbers down. Same as Blairs University students.
Might as well be honest and pay everybody a universal income and just let those who want to work or have something to give get on with it for extra bunces.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
I hope you are right.
I would have agreed Charles Moore would make a good boss at the BBC, however there are plenty of right wingers who are only interested in votes and there are far more votes in animal welfare, rights of access, and any number of issues you and I would be unaminous on
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Its only faux employment to massage the unemployment numbers down. Same as Blairs University students.
Might as well be honest and pay everybody a universal income and just let those who want to work or have something to give get on with it for extra bunces.

Sounds a bit to much of a socialist solution for my likening. I expect people to work for their money, even if it's ultimately pointless work.
 
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