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Martyn · Apr 12, 2021

We purchased a polled Hereford bull from a top breeder and calves have now got small horns, do you think they will grow into full adult horns, never used a poll befor but thought it would prevent dehorning. Would you take them all off now befor turn out.

Hfd Cattle · Apr 12, 2021

Get them off before it gets too warm and the flies start gathering

aangus · Apr 12, 2021

Martyn said:
We purchased a polled Hereford bull from a top breeder and calves have now got small horns, do you think they will grow into full adult horns, never used a poll befor but thought it would prevent dehorning. Would you take them all off now befor turn out. View attachment 953837

Yes, and put some spot-on to keep away the

serf · Apr 12, 2021

Cheese wire them off now, make use of the "favouable" weather ,

Shebb90 · Apr 12, 2021

Martyn said:
We purchased a polled Hereford bull from a top breeder and calves have now got small horns, do you think they will grow into full adult horns, never used a poll befor but thought it would prevent dehorning. Would you take them all off now befor turn out. View attachment 953837

Doesn't seem the bull they sold you was polled.... Think I would be having a word bout it...

Hilly · Apr 12, 2021

Who is the top breeder ?

Martyn · Apr 12, 2021

Shebb90 said:
Doesn't seem the bull they sold you was polled.... Think I would be having a word bout it...

I have said they are sorry to here that but never happened befor

the only animal we have owner that decided at three years old it would scour so bad and loose all it weight that we had to cull him, turned from a 4k young bull to a £400 cull. Plus hundreds on vet bills! Offspring seam ok, but now bought a AA to replace it.

Mc115reed · Apr 12, 2021

neilo said:
You do realise that a carcass isn’t just made up of steaks?

Yes I’m aware of that think it’s something like 20% of live weight is steak... but if all the mince and shite is only sold at cost price which I highly doubt it is... that still leaves a hell of a Margin at £30kg for the steaks

Poorbuthappy · Apr 12, 2021

Mc115reed said:
Yes I’m aware of that think it’s something like 20% of live weight is steak... but if all the mince and shite is only sold at cost price which I highly doubt it is... that still leaves a hell of a Margin at £30kg for the steaks

You may find this page interesting. Not sure what steaks you had, but only around 2% of carcass weight (not lw) goes to make the dearest steaks.
Retail values of beast shown by cuts.
Not saying butchers are hard up, just its not all roses. (Or steaks

)

How much is each cut of beef worth towards the total retail value of the carcase meat? | AHDB

The largest volume of meat from the carcase, commonly sold at retail, is mince. Although in volume at least 43% of the carcase is minced; in value it only contributes around £780/head* to the overall retail value of the carcase meat.

ahdb.org.uk

Highland Mule · Apr 12, 2021

I charge around £30 for ribeye and can get 3.5kg (£100-ish) from a beast. A 400kg R4 will gross around £3k, which doesn’t leave massive margins after paying for shop staff, equipment etc.

There’s nothing stopping a farmer trying retail themselves, if they think it’s easy money.

Hilly · Apr 12, 2021

Highland Mule said:
I charge around £30 for ribeye. A 400kg R4 will gross around £3k, which doesn’t leave massive margins after paying for shop staff, equipment etc.

There’s nothing stopping a farmer trying retail themselves, if they think it’s easy money.

I doubt it will be easy if involves public and staff, more like a nightmare .

livestock 1 · Apr 12, 2021

You can cut up a beef animal any way you want
Joints or steaks can vary in % depending on what you prefer or what’s in most demand

Highland Mule · Apr 12, 2021

livestock 1 said:
You can cut up a beef animal any way you want
Joints or steaks can vary in % depending on what you prefer or what’s in most demand

Yes, to an extent. But you can’t grade up extra posh cuts, just make more of the cheaper ones.

Fillet makes lovely lean mince, but it’s a hell of a waste.

Bossfarmer · Apr 12, 2021

flashsheep said:
A lad who was up at his place last year told me he had 4000 dead ones, sounds a lot but then he said that was out of 110000 so relatively not to bad. You think your doing some numbers until you realise what the real big boys do

was this in the uk? most live ones ive ever heard of someone in this country having is 5000

Highland Mule · Apr 12, 2021

Bossfarmer said:
was this in the uk? most live ones ive ever heard of someone in this country having is 5000

JE will buy 5000 in a week, sometimes.

Bossfarmer · Apr 12, 2021

Highland Mule said:
JE will buy 5000 in a week, sometimes.

whats JE is this a big company thats buying all these stores or a farmer?

Highland Mule · Apr 12, 2021

Bossfarmer said:
whats JE is this a big company thats buying all these stores or a farmer?

If you sell sheep in Scotland, you’ll know who he is.

Bossfarmer · Apr 12, 2021

Highland Mule said:
If you sell sheep in Scotland, you’ll know who he is.

i sell mine fat

Highland Mule · Apr 12, 2021

Bossfarmer said:
i sell mine fat

Even the culls?

JSmith · Apr 12, 2021

Martyn said:
We purchased a polled Hereford bull from a top breeder and calves have now got small horns, do you think they will grow into full adult horns, never used a poll befor but thought it would prevent dehorning. Would you take them all off now befor turn out. View attachment 953837

Sometimes you can get what’s called a scur where the horns should be but those are proper horns that need to come off! Probably the bull was only fifty fifty polled not truly

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