WHY IS THERE SUCH A SHORTAGE OF LABOUR IN EVERY INDUSTRY IN THIS COUNTRY?

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10 Agriculture Influencers to Follow on Instagram
by Leah Soto | Nov 6, 2020 | Blog | 0 comments
Following agriculture influencers on Instagram, is a great way to connect with the online farm community for inspiration, tips and stunning visuals.
Whether you daydream about running your own farm one day, or you already have one, these 10 agriculture influencers on Instagram have content for you!
If you like these accounts, make sure to check out our last two lists: 30 Farming Instagram Accounts to Follow and 10 More Farming Instagram Influencers to Follow.
Adam Henson, @adamhenson_
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Adam is a farmer, author and TV personality. His family farm grows winter barley, wheat, rapeseed and beans and raises, more than 50 breeds of rare and commercial farmyard animals.
Henson’s Instagram is full of adorable photos of his farm animals, including newborn lambs, herding dogs and big bulls.
Becky Porter, @theseasonalhomestead
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Becky is a gardener turned homesteader, who uses her Instagram, blog and YouTube channel to encourage more people to become more self-sufficient with their food.
Her Instagram is made up of close-ups of her gorgeous produce, with captions detailing her recommendations, progress, and struggles.
Ben Andrews, @bentheoandrews
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Ben was born into farm life. Today, he works with his parents on his family’s farm, first started by his grandfather.
Ben’s Instagram posts give a glimpse into the daily life of a farmer, with videos of the harvesting process as well as explanations of why the farm makes certain choices.
Blair Prenoveau, @startafarm
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Blair started farming in her early twenties, by working on farms in Hawaii and California before eventually starting her own.
Now, Blair uses her Instagram to shed light on being a solo female farmer and mother, by sharing photos of her crops, animals, and children, with honest descriptions of farm life.
Hannah Jackson, @redshepherdess
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This influencer is a contract shepherdess, meaning she works on short and long term contracts shepherding cattle and sheep at a number of farms.
The biggest subjects of Hannah’s Instagram account are her shepherding dogs and the many other animals she works with.
Hilary Kearney, @girlnextdoorhoney
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As her username suggests, Hilary is a beekeeper, and her Instagram account focuses on all things bees!
Hilary’s gorgeous close-up shots of bees and informational captions will bring some beauty and learning to your Instagram feed.
Jess and Brian Powers, @workinghandsfarm
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Jess and Brian run a small organic farm called Working Hands Farm, which makes its profit through its community supported agriculture (CSA) program.
Their Instagram is full of freshly harvested and growing food as well as CSA news and season updates.
Kyle Hagerty, @urbanfarmstead
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Kyle is an urban farmer, firefighter and YouTuber. His YouTube channel is full of helpful gardening tutorials and DIY projects.
On Instagram, Kyle posts closeup shots of his beautiful produce and plants with related information in the captions.
Niki Irving, @flourishflowerfarm
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Niki owns and operates Flourish Flower Farm. As a farmer and florist, she harvests and arranges flowers the same day that they’re due to be delivered, for the freshest arrangements.
Her Instagram is bright and colorful, with beautiful flowers at the center of every post.
Urban Veggie Patch, @urbanveggiepatch
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The Urban Veggie Patch account is ran by an Australian stay at home mom, who documents her backyard gardening experience through her Instagram.
Her colorful account is full of fruits, flowers and vegetables and her captions often provide helpful gardening tips and tricks.
When you follow these 10 agriculture influencers on Instagram, you’ll have the right inspiration and advice to get you started on your own.
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hoff135

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ive asked this before but why ? if its true that there is such a massive massive ive said it twice ? in every industry from the hospitality industry, such as bar work in resturants and pubs, now thats not so bad a job ? lorry drivers, 40,000 were mentioned in one paper to NHS workers, to construction workers, got to mention farm workers etc etc etc, why isnt the govt doing something about this ? with all what ive mentions surely there can be no excuse then for any person young or old not to be able to get a job . or is it not so simple , speaking from someone whos selfemployed worked since left school at 16, had no jollies at university or gap years travelling round the world ? just makes me so angry hearing this ?
If there are 40k lorry drivers needed that would indicate that demand should be high for haulage services?. Yet I hear stories of big haulage firms running lorries for next to nothing just to keep the wheels moving. Can anyone explain
 

CornishTone

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If there are 40k lorry drivers needed that would indicate that demand should be high for haulage services?. Yet I hear stories of big haulage firms running lorries for next to nothing just to keep the wheels moving. Can anyone explain

Brother drives a lorry. He spent 5 years doing long distance with a curtain sider.

  • Left Monday morning; came home Friday night if he was lucky.
  • Used to have the diesel stolen out of his tank and curtains slashed whilst he was lying in his cab, always told to just let them get on with it and call the repair mob to mend and refill the tank. If you get out and confront them you'll have your head kicked in for your trouble.
  • Wash and shower in sh1it hole services.
  • Usually had to load and unload himself at each stop, making the working day18hrs, regardless of driving hours, and have to deal with Little Hitler site foremen who love to bait lorry drivers (until they realise arguing with a lorry driver is like asking a pig not to roll in sh1t. After a while you realise they actually enjoy it!).
  • Have to cope with, and second guess, the relentlessly deteriorating standards of driving from other road users across the country, safe in the knowledge that if they pull out in front of you or throw themselves under your wheels, the cops will do everything in their power to blame you (bit like tractors).
  • And all for about 25K a year, including £20/wk living away allowance.

So he came home and drives a tipper locally for about £30k and sleeps in his own bed. Still argues with site foremen though... because you need to have something to look forward to each day!!😬

But I can quite see why no one would want to do it, especially long distance pallet shuffling. Unless you're actually trying to avoid your wife and kids, it seems like a miserable existence!
 

honeyend

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Our work systems are based on the idea that there will always be enough young people entering it to replace the work force, and when most of our heavy industries were closed down, increased education was used to take up unemployment.
My dad left school at fourteen, my sister fifteen, and I left school at sixteen, none of us are stupid, I am educated to degree standard, and my dad ran his own business and did his own books.
So you have the pinch of an older population, fewer young people, and a growth in jobs that need pairs of hands, like hospitality and care work, which are poorly paid, but it reduced the employment figures. Now we need people with skills to do things, it's harder to find young people that see that work as a career choice. For years, they have been told that education would give them a 'better' job, and skills which are practical looked down on.
I worked with a young girl at the weekend who seemed to think that despite the fact she was being paid hourly +60%, her social life and phone were more important than what she was doing. A lot live in an environment where mum and dad pick up the bills, and get miffed when you point out you have to work for your money.
For most working parents child care takes a huge chunk of their money, and time with organizing it. Even if you do not receive UC, you have to balance, is it worth the money and disruption in return for X amount of money.
 
Brother drives a lorry. He spent 5 years doing long distance with a curtain sider.

  • Left Monday morning; came home Friday night if he was lucky.
  • Used to have the diesel stolen out of his tank and curtains slashed whilst he was lying in his cab, always told to just let them get on with it and call the repair mob to mend and refill the tank. If you get out and confront them you'll have your head kicked in for your trouble.
  • Wash and shower in sh1it hole services.
  • Usually had to load and unload himself at each stop, making the working day18hrs, regardless of driving hours, and have to deal with Little Hitler site foremen who love to bait lorry drivers (until they realise arguing with a lorry driver is like asking a pig not to roll in sh1t. After a while you realise they actually enjoy it!).
  • Have to cope with, and second guess, the relentlessly deteriorating standards of driving from other road users across the country, safe in the knowledge that if they pull out in front of you or throw themselves under your wheels, the cops will do everything in their power to blame you (bit like tractors).
  • And all for about 25K a year, including £20/wk living away allowance.

So he came home and drives a tipper locally for about £30k and sleeps in his own bed. Still argues with site foremen though... because you need to have something to look forward to each day!!😬

But I can quite see why no one would want to do it, especially long distance pallet shuffling. Unless you're actually trying to avoid your wife and kids, it seems like a miserable existence!

OK, we run vans and generally drivers spend their nights in their own bed or we get them a Travelodge but if there is an a***hole at the receiving point just get their name and a picture and when they ask why tell them that you are taking the goods back to the loading point and going put his name and picture against "LOAD REFUSED". They soon change their minds. ;)
 

Tubbylew

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Because the difference in net income between working at lower end of wage scale and living on benefits is very small and even favours benefits in some cases. Also quite a few relatively routine jobs require qualifications, certificates etc. which prevents a barrier to entry.
This, gone are the days a keen young man could wander onto a building site and ask for a job labouring, it's all cics cards etc now. I know of one pretty experienced chap who had to do a runner off a site as he didn't have the relevent cards, when an inspector arrived. Shame really.
 
Same old drum being banged. Paying a lazy, useless moron a few quid an hour, doesn’t make him or her less of a lazy, useless moron. The issues with people and people in this country in particular, go far beyond “you’re not offering enough money”.


Ok then, go and work some minimum wage jobs, slog your guts out for less than £100 a day and then come back and tell us how you managed to live on that? I've done it. I work alongside people doing it. The truth of the matter is that they are either all very young and with minimal living costs, or older people who do it to keep themselves busy or because they enjoy it.

It costs me £5 just in fuel to get to work. If I did a short shift on the minimum wage (£8.91 isn't it?), I'd pocket a grand total of £71.28 before tax. So I would be taking home barely £66 a day despite the fact I could be the key worker that diligently stops your gran having to lie in her own mess for 6 hours straight today.

And we wonder why so many industries and businesses can't find staff? Anyone with half a brain or any gumption has wised up and found something a bit more amenable or lucrative to do. I've near zero sympathy for employers who complain they can't get staff or people don't turn up or won't work 5 days straight or X or Y or Z when they are offering minimum wage. One of the shift patterns I can opt to work for is 7am until 9pm. That's 14 hours out of anyone's life. Do you expect me to do that for minimum wage then?

It is high time that trips to the cinema, dining in restaurants and the like were made more expensive. People at the bottom of the payscale need to earn a sensible minimum wage. It's not like they are living like millionaires. The fact is that an extra £10, £50 or £100 feels like a lot of money to people in this situation. Well now the economy is finding the boot on the other foot. There aren't legions of people looking to do this stuff and there aren't legions of people looking to do the skilled or very skilled stuff either.
 

melted welly

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Ok then, go and work some minimum wage jobs, slog your guts out for less than £100 a day and then come back and tell us how you managed to live on that? I've done it. I work alongside people doing it. The truth of the matter is that they are either all very young and with minimal living costs, or older people who do it to keep themselves busy or because they enjoy it.

It costs me £5 just in fuel to get to work. If I did a short shift on the minimum wage (£8.91 isn't it?), I'd pocket a grand total of £71.28 before tax. So I would be taking home barely £66 a day despite the fact I could be the key worker that diligently stops your gran having to lie in her own mess for 6 hours straight today.

And we wonder why so many industries and businesses can't find staff? Anyone with half a brain or any gumption has wised up and found something a bit more amenable or lucrative to do. I've near zero sympathy for employers who complain they can't get staff or people don't turn up or won't work 5 days straight or X or Y or Z when they are offering minimum wage. One of the shift patterns I can opt to work for is 7am until 9pm. That's 14 hours out of anyone's life. Do you expect me to do that for minimum wage then?

It is high time that trips to the cinema, dining in restaurants and the like were made more expensive. People at the bottom of the payscale need to earn a sensible minimum wage. It's not like they are living like millionaires. The fact is that an extra £10, £50 or £100 feels like a lot of money to people in this situation. Well now the economy is finding the boot on the other foot. There aren't legions of people looking to do this stuff and there aren't legions of people looking to do the skilled or very skilled stuff either.

Problem I’ve found is the lack of self awareness in that some people have very little concept of their own limitations and lack of skills/knowledge, often coupled with an assumption that they are always right.

I’m open to investing in people if it’s returned in a good attitude and interest in the job. Skills are an irrelevance in my opinion, they can be taught, good attitudes can’t.

The OP asks why is there shortages of home grown labour?

In my opinion a lot of it is simply down to bad attitudes and an inflated sense of self importance brought about by weak parenting created, in turn, by woolly, hand wringing, short term, populist politics.

as to how to fix it, haven’t a clue.
 

kiwi pom

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It seems to be a problem in a lot of countries at the moment, I think its just because everyone's resetting themselves after "the sickness". Something on the news here yesterday about reduced buses in Wellington as they can't get drivers.
Why? well because it's crap money, split shifts and you have to haul people around a city all day, on a tight schedule, why would you do that for $20 an hour, when you can drive a truck, on your own, out in the sticks for $35 an hour?
Closed borders mean employers now have to compete hard for staff.
It will put prices up though, so we probably won't be any better off.
 

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