The giant fert price rise!!!!

jamesy · Aug 17, 2021

Surely you can’t be taken seriously as an arable farmer in this day & age if working in acres.

For the avoidance of doubt the above is a joke.

I have to figure out what I want on in cwt/acre then calculate to kg/ha for settings. Then realise I’ve got it wrong and just shrug and say it’s close enough

Nithsdale · Aug 17, 2021

Chae1 said:
Strangely I understand that better. Dad always told me how much to apply in cwts.

I seem to spend most of my time mentally converting metric to imperial or vice versa. The 2 systems don't phase me.

I talk in acres, feet and inches, miles (can visualise the size/distance in my head - can't do that with metric for some reason)... but measure in hectares, mm and cm... always drive in miles too right enough - Km is just wrong on every level

Fert has always been cwts

doesn't matter if it's acres or HA.

5020man · Aug 17, 2021

Hi.
Us olduns use bags per acre,
Simples??

Chae1 · Aug 17, 2021

jamesy said:
Surely you can’t be taken seriously as an arable farmer in this day & age if working in acres.

For the avoidance of doubt the above is a joke.

I have to figure out what I want on in cwt/acre then calculate to kg/ha for settings. Then realise I’ve got it wrong and just shrug and say it’s close enough

But acres make your farm seem bigger!

GeorgeK · Aug 17, 2021

jamesy said:
Surely you can’t be taken seriously as an arable farmer in this day & age if working in acres.

For the avoidance of doubt the above is a joke.

I have to figure out what I want on in cwt/acre then calculate to kg/ha for settings. Then realise I’ve got it wrong and just shrug and say it’s close enough

It's hectares for yield, acres for area covered. Eg "Combined 40 acres today. Did 14t (ha)."

som farmer · Aug 17, 2021

Hampton said:
Strange isn’t it. The jobsworth EA #### actually made you a better farmer and got you doing your job properly.
Sounds like he’s the type of bloke we actually need in agriculture!

you really really do not want someone like him. At 1 stage, he wanted us to empty lagoon, and pay a professional surveyor to measure it, even though his boss, had told him it was fine. Condemned our silage pit, unsuitable effluent tank, rectified. But yes, p +k, helped. Nvz records, were from planet, not acceptable to him, stupid bit, we are fully compliant anyway.

DaveGrohl · Aug 17, 2021

Fergieman said:
There's a bit of cross wires on this post some are posting kgs of product per Ha some are kgs of N per Ha and the op is kgs of product per acre

Ah, the gift that never stops giving....

Wait til the bag police get here, then the trouble will really start......

Hilly · Aug 17, 2021

Metric imperial confusion goes on all day everyday , we buy litres of fuel and measure in miles per gallon lol when you think about it our daily life is full of metric imperial mixture .

Hampton · Aug 17, 2021

som farmer said:
you really really do not want someone like him. At 1 stage, he wanted us to empty lagoon, and pay a professional surveyor to measure it, even though his boss, had told him it was fine. Condemned our silage pit, unsuitable effluent tank, rectified. But yes, p +k, helped. Nvz records, were from planet, not acceptable to him, stupid bit, we are fully compliant anyway.

Ok, fair enough. Pleased you have got through it all.

roscoe erf · Aug 17, 2021

Hilly said:
Hen shyt.

Bull sh!t

Bossfarmer · Aug 17, 2021

Chae1 said:
I'm a neep but I cut back ten units of N for fields that have had muck.

As for P&K I'm putting on 2cwt of 10:15:21 at home on regularly mucked fertile land. Hungry stuff out about that's been in spring barley continuously getting 3-4cwt

so basically the mucks saving you 1-2 cwt of 10-15-21, a useful saving

Bossfarmer · Aug 17, 2021

Pringles said:
We grow feed barley only which generally gets 250kg/ha of 10,20,30 then 320kg 20,9.9+7.5So3 this year our spring barley looked hellish after the coldest- wettest May we have had for many years, so I went over again with 125kg/ha of 20,8,12 to try and perk it up a bit so hoping for barn busting record breaking yields this harvest.
But as @Chae1 says go with what is needed after soil analysis results are known.

Yes fert prices are bloody ridiculous but if your land needs fed then you have got to just do it.

thats not a huge amount of N for feed barley from your origional 2 applications tbh, does your ground get much muck?

BrianV · Aug 17, 2021

Think fertiliser price rises are only the tip of a giant iceberg, forget central bank's & government talk of just a temporary rise in inflation anyone with large borrowings or a mortgage would be well advised to get a fixed rate for the next 5 years as it could be a very bumpy ride when interest rates start to go higher.

Hooby Farmer · Aug 17, 2021

som farmer said:
you really really do not want someone like him. At 1 stage, he wanted us to empty lagoon, and pay a professional surveyor to measure it, even though his boss, had told him it was fine. Condemned our silage pit, unsuitable effluent tank, rectified. But yes, p +k, helped. Nvz records, were from planet, not acceptable to him, stupid bit, we are fully compliant anyway.

One of the main reasons my dad stopped the cattle 20ish years ago. We are the closest farm in NI to a main water course and had the EA ir equivalent in every other week.

warksfarmer · Aug 17, 2021

Bossfarmer said:
As we all know cereal prices are strong again this year but the cost of growing them has increased sharply, im interested to know how much fert people are using on their crops does anyone put p & k on seperately as well as the compound at drilling? below are my applications for laureate malting barley it would be good if others post theirs, thanks

14-13-21 151kg/acre

27-0-0 131 kg/acre

Nitrogen wise we’ve cut back by 50kg/ha. It’s just to expensive.

Not using any P & K either.

Flatlander · Aug 17, 2021

Hilly said:
Metric imperial confusion goes on all day everyday , we buy litres of fuel and measure in miles per gallon lol when you think about it our daily life is full of metric imperial mixture .

Try living here metric imperial and the US. Eg 4.54 litres in a gallon but in the US it’s 3.78 litres in a gallon our gravel road are on a mile grid but speed signs are in kmh. We buy fertilizer in metric tons. Chemicals in US gallons and sell grain in bushels but paid by the ton. need a math degree some days just to get out of bed.

Hilly · Aug 17, 2021

Flatlander said:
Try living here metric imperial and the US. Eg 4.54 litres in a gallon but in the US it’s 3.78 litres in a gallon our gravel road are on a mile grid but speed signs are in kmh. We buy fertilizer in metric tons. Chemicals in US gallons and sell grain in bushels but paid by the ton. need a math degree some days just to get out of bed.

Mad world we have created .

Nithsdale · Aug 17, 2021

Hilly said:
Mad world we have created .

That's before we even get onto the concept of money

Old apprentice · Aug 17, 2021

Put 170 units of n per acre on wheat.

sexy lexy · Aug 17, 2021

Every farm advertised in the fw this week advertised in acres

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