The giant fert price rise!!!!
- Thread starter Bossfarmer
- Start date
- Location
- south norfolk
Winter wheat 180 kg ha
winter barley 120kg ha
osr 150 kg ha
nick...
winter barley 120kg ha
osr 150 kg ha
nick...
250kg/hct 20-10-10 on mowing unless it's under restriction.
Zero on almost all grazing.
app 20 tonnes of barley straw and maybe half as much in sawmill residue, plus all the cow carp it has soaked up also goes on about nearest 80 acres of mowing
the bought in fert looks increasingly shaky as time goes on, and is mostly now a time saving exercise - I probably could arrange alternatives, but would have to put more time and effort into doing so..... and that's summat I don't have a surplus of.
Zero on almost all grazing.
app 20 tonnes of barley straw and maybe half as much in sawmill residue, plus all the cow carp it has soaked up also goes on about nearest 80 acres of mowing
the bought in fert looks increasingly shaky as time goes on, and is mostly now a time saving exercise - I probably could arrange alternatives, but would have to put more time and effort into doing so..... and that's summat I don't have a surplus of.
Chae1
Member
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Strangely I understand that better. Dad always told me how much to apply in cwts.
GeorgeK
Member
- Location
- Leicestershire
It's been said elsewhere the new autumn manure regulations are to the benefit of fertiliser manufacturers
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
How’s that ?
GeorgeK
Member
- Location
- Leicestershire
At best there will be more hoops to jump through for autumn applications of organic fertiliser on crops, at worst it may no longer be allowed for some crops, soil types or sloping fields.
Some people will move away from manure/biosolids for less hassle and some won't be allowed to use as much. It seems like the regulations will increase demand for manufactured fertiliser and reduces the other options available?
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Just apply it at the right time ? New spreaders are getting better width apply to the growing crop ??
- Location
- somerset
being NVZ, and have suffered at the demands of a jobsworth EA ####, the one thing that was usefull, was his insistence on soil sampling, every field, so P and K, bought, and used separately, as required, actually saved us money, everything else, cost.
We were, and are fully compliant with NVZ regs, his problem, he couldn't reconcile the actual size of our slurry lagoon, with his aerial photo. The reason for the original visit, blocked council road drain, 2 years of #### red tape.
We were, and are fully compliant with NVZ regs, his problem, he couldn't reconcile the actual size of our slurry lagoon, with his aerial photo. The reason for the original visit, blocked council road drain, 2 years of #### red tape.
- Location
- Shropshire
Strange isn’t it. The jobsworth EA #### actually made you a better farmer and got you doing your job properly.
Sounds like he’s the type of bloke we actually need in agriculture!
Bossfarmer
Member
- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
Is this units?
kg/n ha i dont know what units are
Bossfarmer
Member
- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
Could anyone give a rough figure for how much £ theyre saving per acre on bought in fert from applying muck?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
That would surely depend on what the muck was, it’s analysis, application rate, when it’s applied and tonnage available? A lot of variables between farms.
We grow feed barley only which generally gets 250kg/ha of 10,20,30 then 320kg 20,9.9+7.5So3 this year our spring barley looked hellish after the coldest- wettest May we have had for many years, so I went over again with 125kg/ha of 20,8,12 to try and perk it up a bit so hoping for barn busting record breaking yields this harvest. 
But as @Chae1 says go with what is needed after soil analysis results are known.
Yes fert prices are bloody ridiculous but if your land needs fed then you have got to just do it.
But as @Chae1 says go with what is needed after soil analysis results are known.
Yes fert prices are bloody ridiculous but if your land needs fed then you have got to just do it.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I put an upsetting quantity of fert on. But get a lot of crop off. It's still the best paying input.
Chae1
Member
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
I'm a neep but I cut back ten units of N for fields that have had muck.
As for P&K I'm putting on 2cwt of 10:15:21 at home on regularly mucked fertile land. Hungry stuff out about that's been in spring barley continuously getting 3-4cwt
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Probably less than the ad plant would have to spend disposing / tankering their "waste" elsewhere.
We apply our full legal amount of digestate to growing crops in spring. It is a good saving. And crops do better than the equivalent out if the bag.
- Location
- Northumberland
There's a bit of cross wires on this post some are posting kgs of product per Ha some are kgs of N per Ha and the op is kgs of product per acre 
320kg/ha split over 2 applications for first cut grass 23/9/13/8 (I think)
250kg/ha for second cut 27/0/0/13
250kg/ha for 3rd cut 27/0/0/13
180kg/ha just put on for 4th cut 27/0/0/13
Without doubt for me it's still one of the best returns on investment in terms of grass yield response. These are all modern ryegrass leys.
Grazing ground gets 50kg/ha every 4 or so weeks. Usually urea.
I'm not blessed with 1000's of acres and so see regular reseeding and fertiliser as my way of boosting production without taking on more land miles and miles away
Muck applied routinely for P and K.
250kg/ha for second cut 27/0/0/13
250kg/ha for 3rd cut 27/0/0/13
180kg/ha just put on for 4th cut 27/0/0/13
Without doubt for me it's still one of the best returns on investment in terms of grass yield response. These are all modern ryegrass leys.
Grazing ground gets 50kg/ha every 4 or so weeks. Usually urea.
I'm not blessed with 1000's of acres and so see regular reseeding and fertiliser as my way of boosting production without taking on more land miles and miles away
Muck applied routinely for P and K.