UK Public now Eating Significantly Less Meat

wanton dwarf · Oct 8, 2021

Farfrae said:
The BBC in full flow this morning. The agenda is writ large

UK public now eating significantly less meat

Britons are cutting their meat consumption, but not quickly enough, according to scientists.

www.bbc.co.uk

Something doesn't stack up here.

We know the population of the UK has increased by at least 10%.

Looking through the report it's a "Per Capita" amount .. which looking at it in detail is mainly influenced by immigrants from none UK cultures. Looks as though the total amount of meat consumption remains pretty much the same, maybe a bit less as other sources of protein have arrived. The main reduction is from other cultures.

Misleading headline IMHO.

"Findings
From 2008 to 2019, average meat consumption per capita per day decreased from 103·7 g (SE 2·3) to 86·3 g (2·9) per day (ptrend<0·0001), including an absolute reduction in red-meat consumption of 13·7 g (ptrend<0·0001), an absolute reduction in processed meat consumption of 7·0 g (ptrend<0·0001), and a 3·2 g increase (ptrend=0·0027) in white-meat consumption. Collectively, these changes were associated with a significant reduction in all six environmental indicators over the whole period. The two middle birth-year groups (people born in 1960–79 and 1980–99) and White individuals were the highest meat consumers. Meat intake increased over time among people born after 1999, was unchanged among Asian and Asian British populations, and decreased in all other population subgroups. We found no difference in intake with gender or household income."

bobk · Oct 8, 2021

Farfrae said:
The BBC in full flow this morning. The agenda is writ large

UK public now eating significantly less meat

Britons are cutting their meat consumption, but not quickly enough, according to scientists.

www.bbc.co.uk

Indeed , whereas in the real world meat sales are booming .

wanton dwarf · Oct 8, 2021

bobk said:
Indeed , whereas in the real world meat sales are booming .

You cannot even trust the data they collated. The figures are "Estimated", so there is going to be a significant margin of error probably in the order of at least 10%.

"Dietary-data collection and processing
Dietary data were collected using consecutive, 4 day, estimated unweighed food diaries, with all days of the week equally represented. Meat consumption was based on disaggregated meat data that excluded all non-meat components of composite meat dishes and products."
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bobk · Oct 8, 2021

wanton dwarf said:
You cannot even trust the data they collated. The figures are "Estimated", so there is going to be a significant margin of error probably in the order of at least 10%.

"Dietary-data collection and processing
Dietary data were collected using consecutive, 4 day, estimated unweighed food diaries, with all days of the week equally represented. Meat consumption was based on disaggregated meat data that excluded all non-meat components of composite meat dishes and products."
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As the OP said , don't let facts get in the way of the bbc agenda

DaveGrohl · Oct 8, 2021

The bit that interested me was to do with how they assessed ready meals and such. If people are eating more ready meals (a fair assumption I'd have thought?) the meat content of these isn't that great is it? Pretty small in a lot of cases. That alone could result in a reduction to some degree.

Then again, the whole study is a bit of a joke anyway so who cares.

wanton dwarf · Oct 8, 2021

28% of those involved in the survey were less than 10 years old.

wanton dwarf · Oct 8, 2021

DaveGrohl said:
The bit that interested me was to do with how they assessed ready meals and such. If people are eating more ready meals (a fair assumption I'd have thought?) the meat content of these isn't that great is it? Pretty small in a lot of cases. That alone could result in a reduction to some degree.

Then again, the whole study is a bit of a joke anyway so who cares.

A ready meal will have a meat content which is already cooked. The meat will weigh less compared to fresh ingredients in the same meal. Plenty of margin to sway the statistics which ever way you want.

Lincoln75 · Oct 8, 2021

Bury your heads in the sand at your peril , I`d wager that in 25 years meat will be a very small part of Western diets , your teenage kids will be growing mainly veg ,legumes and bio fuel crops when they are in their forties.

wanton dwarf · Oct 8, 2021

DaveGrohl said:
The bit that interested me was to do with how they assessed ready meals and such. If people are eating more ready meals (a fair assumption I'd have thought?) the meat content of these isn't that great is it? Pretty small in a lot of cases. That alone could result in a reduction to some degree.

Then again, the whole study is a bit of a joke anyway so who cares.

We have to care because this torrent of propaganda will only increase and we are going to have to fight for our way of life - all of us collectively.

wanton dwarf · Oct 8, 2021

Lincoln75 said:
Bury your heads in the sand at your peril , I`d wager that in 25 years meat will be a very small part of Western diets , your teenage kids will be growing mainly veg ,legumes and bio fuel crops when they are in their forties.

Protein is required to have a large brain, calcium for good teeth and bones. My sister who is vegan doesn't allow her child to go veggy .. because he'd end up thick with a small brain and bad teeth.

He regularly drinks cream and eats meat.

As a teacher she knows what's the best diet to give a healthy future .. and it isnt' eating veggy.

Lincoln75 · Oct 8, 2021

wanton dwarf said:
Protein is required to have a large brain, calcium for good teeth and bones. My sister who is vegan doesn't allow her child to go veggy .. because he'd end up thick with a small brain and bad teeth.

He regularly drinks cream and eats meat.

As a teacher she knows what's the best diet to give a healthy future .. and it isnt' eating veggy.

It`s not me you have to convince , as for teachers knowing better you`ll find a large percentage of them are veggie and socialists.

Treg · Oct 8, 2021

Lincoln75 said:
It`s not me you have to convince , as for teachers knowing better you`ll find a large percentage of them are veggie and socialists.

That's very true ,had a couple of teachers on a farm visit afew weeks ago , let them feed concentrate to weaned calves ...." is this the soya you feed"

Had to explain that I'm not allowed to feed Soya , they were gobsmacked, they thought that's what livestock ate.
Explain soya milk to them

wanton dwarf · Oct 8, 2021

Lincoln75 said:
It`s not me you have to convince , as for teachers knowing better you`ll find a large percentage of them are veggie and socialists.

Do we need to convince them ? It's pretty obvious they don't believe their own propaganda.

DaveGrohl · Oct 8, 2021

wanton dwarf said:
We have to care because this torrent of propaganda will only increase and we are going to have to fight for our way of life - all of us collectively.

I'd say we're already at saturation point. Anyone susceptible to it has already swallowed it.

Bald Rick · Oct 8, 2021

Just remember Mark Twain’s maxim:

“There are lies, damn lies, and statistics”

SteveHants · Oct 8, 2021

kfpben said:
In the small print is that people are eating more white meat (as it’s cheaper) and less red. So basically no change in the trend seen since 1960.
Population has grown though so demand is still strong.

Yup.

I almost get bored of saying it, but once again: 80% of the meat we eat is pig and poultry, 50% of the UK consumption of meat is chicken alone.

SteveHants · Oct 8, 2021

kfpben said:
Doctors alerted to dangerous dry scooping workout trend

Pre-workout powders should be diluted in water, but some gym-goers are eating it neat.

www.bbc.co.uk

Like this kind of carry on

Nah, that falls into the age old trend of "gym bros doing stupid stuff"

SteveHants · Oct 8, 2021

Foregoneconclusion said:
And the shame about this is that white meat especially chook meat comes from abroad and has much higher footprint due to intensive way animals are kept and produced..less so pork but still high dependency on grain n soya.. unlike the outstandingly tasty UK grass reared beef n lamb

Yeah, we only hatch 25 odd million broilers per month in the UK.....

SteveHants · Oct 8, 2021

Lincoln75 said:
It`s not me you have to convince , as for teachers knowing better you`ll find a large percentage of them are veggie and socialists.

Yeah, you've never been in a school staffroom have you?

Lincoln75 · Oct 8, 2021

SteveHants said:
Yeah, you've never been in a school staffroom have you?

Nope thankfully but a few of the wifes friends are teachers , all in love with Labour or the Liberal lot and are veggies,

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