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Jdunn55

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Well I hope you do well and find the magic pill then
Im yet to find it! But im not really looking for it.

But I think consistency of nutrition is a massive factor and consistency in general. In terms of daily routine, monthly routine etc
Having someone unbiased out every month monitoring condition score is massively important to me now for all the reasons you've said. Im aiming to calve in at 3.25-3.5 and ideally drop as little as possible. Custom spec minerals has helped, repairing the feed passage to improve intakes along with parlour board on the floor is on my list too
An independent nutritionist is next on my list to really push the cows the way I want them to go.

Next year all cows will be only grazed by day and then fed with maize by night so that I can support them better - as has been said on here before 60 litre cows + just grazed grass isn't easy. I will be aiming for an average yield all year round though of about 30 litres+
 

Jdunn55

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And your last bcs you didn’t believe cos it said they were to thin ,which a few on here commented at the time that photos of your cows showed them to be thin
I sent a cow from that scoring session off to cull that was scored 1.5, she made £1,300. I know cull price is good but a cow on deaths door (which is what a score of one is) will never ever make that amount of money.

The next session nearly all cows jumped by over 1 whole condition point. I like to think I'm improving but leaping that amount is nigh on impossible.
 
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Cornwall
Im yet to find it! But im not really looking for it.

But I think consistency of nutrition is a massive factor and consistency in general. In terms of daily routine, monthly routine etc
Having someone unbiased out every month monitoring condition score is massively important to me now for all the reasons you've said. Im aiming to calve in at 3.25-3.5 and ideally drop as little as possible. Custom spec minerals has helped, repairing the feed passage to improve intakes along with parlour board on the floor is on my list too
An independent nutritionist is next on my list to really push the cows the way I want them to go.

Next year all cows will be only grazed by day and then fed with maize by night so that I can support them better - as has been said on here before 60 litre cows + just grazed grass isn't easy. I will be aiming for an average yield all year round though of about 30 litres+

Why the big push for yields? All fine when everything is ok but cows like that are like a racing car always in need of something. You’ve got a good farm to grow grass why not make the most of it.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
That’s fine as long as your silage is good enough to support the yields your wanting to do
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cp 15.7
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the benefits of multi cut.

this weeks 4th cut, isn't going to analyse quite the same, only excuse, fecking rain.

we do try and make good silage, and in a moist year, we can grow grass, as we seem to be able in a dry one.

was hoping for a 6th cut, only managed that once, would have done it again, this year, if it hadn't rained.
 

glow worm

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Location
cornwall
An excellent visit yesterday. Tough area to dairy but what a good unit. Also full credit to RABDF for organising and orchestrating such an interesting day.View attachment 1129732View attachment 1129733View attachment 1129734View attachment 1129735View attachment 1129736View attachment 1129737
Very interested to know what Red Tractors opion was on the calf pens. Haven't seen that design before. Really like tthem for individual feeding without sucking each other / transmitting disease but our Red Tractor inspector would have had palpitations if we had had hutches like that. She was VERY insistent that tactile and visual contact was all important despite us having proof that contact between baby calves is not always good health management.
 

In the pit

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembrokeshire
dm 38.4
cp 15.7
dv 73
me 11.7

the benefits of multi cut.

this weeks 4th cut, isn't going to analyse quite the same, only excuse, fecking rain.

we do try and make good silage, and in a moist year, we can grow grass, as we seem to be able in a dry one.

was hoping for a 6th cut, only managed that once, would have done it again, this year, if it hadn't rained.
That’s one cut ,but what about your other 5 cuts and that doesn’t tell @Jdunn55 anything because his silage analysis could be totally different
The focus seems to be on “I’m going to do x yield and everything else is irrelevant”
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Very interested to know what Red Tractors opion was on the calf pens. Haven't seen that design before. Really like tthem for individual feeding without sucking each other / transmitting disease but our Red Tractor inspector would have had palpitations if we had had hutches like that. She was VERY insistent that tactile and visual contact was all important despite us having proof that contact between baby calves is not always good health management.
l think Tesco's insist on calf-calf contact, and/or no single calf pens.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
That’s one cut ,but what about your other 5 cuts and that doesn’t tell @Jdunn55 anything because his silage analysis could be totally different
The focus seems to be on “I’m going to do x yield and everything else is irrelevant”
av of 1st and 2nd cut

3rd cut baled, and 4th cut, didn't go quite as planned, and will require some careful balancing.

5th cut, weather permitting, should be quality again.

but analysis are only an indication of the pit, its only a few grams, from 100's of tons of silage.

that reality was confirmed when we tried t analysis rye/vetch silage, and 12 samples varied from 4% protein, to 48% protein, and everything in between.

once feeding 'proper' starts, we face sample every 2 weeks, which gives us a better degree of accuracy. Although there isn't a great deal of variance from the initial pit sample.
 

Martyn

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Location
South west
Put hot wash around parlour as fitted new liners as part of annual clean/service then heard a crack/bang🤔
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DairyNerd

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Livestock Farmer
Tomorrow's offering, cut for bales on 29th July. Been pre-mowing some as getting some high grass rejection, maybe N released after all the rain but not going to do this one.
 

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Jdunn55

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One of my favourite families

Newbarton cameron Maggie
Back in-calf 2nd service to Gemini Norseman on a cogent contract
Dam of Newbarton King-of-hearts by Jake on-test with cogent currently

Dam was VG87 and did yields to 10,000 litres

No chad, jingle, centurion, pinnacle, and only minimal hylke and glenalbyn on her sires side

Also have a sister and niece by Seb and another milking sister by lad
 

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