Devil's advocate
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He is like a Soay tup shagging anything that moves.
But he is totally useless & not fit to sire humans.
But he is totally useless & not fit to sire humans.
Russell Brand
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I completely agree, but sadly suspect many consenting parties at the time who thought it pretty cool to go home with a celebrity for a bragging to their mates that they slept with none other than Russel Brand will now come out of the woodwork and say it wasn't consent, they were too young, or he wasn't quite as nice as they had expected and was forceful... I'd be highly surprised if any said they didn't leave with him willingly or were afraid before they left... but he will no doubt get done for it
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Always has been an arse, he will get what is right no doubt.. a lot of celebrities abuse their status and a lot of impressionable folk fall for it, it won't entirely be his fault though, there will always be 2 sides
Danllan
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I've come across this many, many times and it generally stops people straight up... if it were their daughter that is making the claim it must be true...
Of course there are false claims made, whether for reasons of money, publicity, jealousy, spite or sheer mischief-making, but although these are more common than most people might think, they are still far from the norm.
If what has been claimed is not true, Brand will have a vast amount of publicity, and awful lot of stress and a huge amount of compensation out of it.
Think you're a bit off the mark, people normally stay quiet because they are ashamed and then flood to the surface when it materialises they are not alone....Every single time with celebrities, its never just once. Then the hangers on decide to have a go too.
DeeGee
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The bloke is certainly a loathsome knob and a total waste of oxygen.
But that doesn’t mean that he is inherently guilty as accused…….
But that doesn’t mean that he is inherently guilty as accused…….
ollie989898
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It's America, innit. The media can trash your character and reputation long before you get into a court room. Look at Johnny Depp.
essex man
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There is no court case
If he wants he can sue, seems unlikely he will though
Brand made no secret of his promiscuity and activities at the time. This girl freely got a taxi to his house, was told not to go in and had an offer of a free journey home yet she chose to go into the house. Why would she do this?
Farfrae
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Im no fan of the guy, but paint a target on your back and this is what happens.
I'm in agreement with Lawyers of Light who posted this on Telegram
"I tell you this because when a man has genuinely raped or sexually assaulted multiple women, it is not the papers that investigate it, it's the police. And the investigation doesn't happen 10 years later.
Women that have been raped and want to report it generally do so around the time of the incident (within around 12 months). They generally do not wait years and then report it. If they don't report it at the time, they tend never to report it at all.
Ask yourselves this question. Why are these "allegations the result of a joint investigation by the Sunday Times, the Times and Channel 4 Dispatches", and not as a result of an investigation by the police? These are serious allegations so you would think the police would be involved. But they are not.
Do I think Brand was promiscuous? Yes. Do I think he could have been coercive? Possibly just like thousands of other men are. Do I think he might have liked loads of sex in all sorts of positions and that he may have used his fame to get it? Yes likely, but that is not a crime.
Rape is a serious thing and my comments are not to demean anyone that has suffered any sort of sexual assault, because me having nearly suffered this is enough for me to realise how life changing that is.
But anyone coming forward with historic never before made allegations to a newspaper, instead of to law enforcement, raises serious questions I'm afraid."
Brand is too big now to control with over 6 million you tube subscribers and 11 million twitter followers, and represents a serious threat to both the MSM and others running the narrative of the day. He has a variety of guests on his show and some are really good. He is making people think and that is the problem. The only way to therefore contain him is to smear him.
I'm sorry but I'm not buying this story as it appears. It's off and all my legal training as well as intuition tells me this is a sting operation.
And I say this not being a particular fan of Brand.
I seriously hope he comes out punching on this if, like he says, he has evidence to rebut the allegations, because if he has he will damage the MSM irreparably if he shows everyone that these allegations are not true.
Genuine crimes against women should be reported by women to the police. Not to the newspapers."
I'm in agreement with Lawyers of Light who posted this on Telegram
"I tell you this because when a man has genuinely raped or sexually assaulted multiple women, it is not the papers that investigate it, it's the police. And the investigation doesn't happen 10 years later.
Women that have been raped and want to report it generally do so around the time of the incident (within around 12 months). They generally do not wait years and then report it. If they don't report it at the time, they tend never to report it at all.
Ask yourselves this question. Why are these "allegations the result of a joint investigation by the Sunday Times, the Times and Channel 4 Dispatches", and not as a result of an investigation by the police? These are serious allegations so you would think the police would be involved. But they are not.
Do I think Brand was promiscuous? Yes. Do I think he could have been coercive? Possibly just like thousands of other men are. Do I think he might have liked loads of sex in all sorts of positions and that he may have used his fame to get it? Yes likely, but that is not a crime.
Rape is a serious thing and my comments are not to demean anyone that has suffered any sort of sexual assault, because me having nearly suffered this is enough for me to realise how life changing that is.
But anyone coming forward with historic never before made allegations to a newspaper, instead of to law enforcement, raises serious questions I'm afraid."
Brand is too big now to control with over 6 million you tube subscribers and 11 million twitter followers, and represents a serious threat to both the MSM and others running the narrative of the day. He has a variety of guests on his show and some are really good. He is making people think and that is the problem. The only way to therefore contain him is to smear him.
I'm sorry but I'm not buying this story as it appears. It's off and all my legal training as well as intuition tells me this is a sting operation.
And I say this not being a particular fan of Brand.
I seriously hope he comes out punching on this if, like he says, he has evidence to rebut the allegations, because if he has he will damage the MSM irreparably if he shows everyone that these allegations are not true.
Genuine crimes against women should be reported by women to the police. Not to the newspapers."
ollie989898
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What a load of cobblers. It is not secret sexual crimes often go unreported because of the stigma and trauma experienced by the victims of it or because they don't feel they will be believed. The timeframe in which it takes for crimes to be reported is of no consequence.
Only a collection of legal beagles could come up with such BS. I suppose Saville was all the figment of someone's imagination, too.
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I've yet to reach any firm decision about RB - he's sharp, witty, astute and interesting …. he's a showman, nothing more or less and he sells himself to the media and so, to us. Is he real? I'm not sure.
There's one thing that I don't understand about this case and others too; Why was it that his accusers seemingly chose to return for further abusive episodes and after the shock and pain of the initial and supposed attacks? I am not defending him just calling in to question the motives of his accusers.
Do we remember the case of Prince Andrew and the girl; who was shipped over from America? Do we remember how she appeared on camera to be enjoying herself in his company, and how she had an all expenses paid trip over AND £15,000 as payment for her services, and then it appeared that she was somehow a victim ….
There's one thing that I don't understand about this case and others too; Why was it that his accusers seemingly chose to return for further abusive episodes and after the shock and pain of the initial and supposed attacks? I am not defending him just calling in to question the motives of his accusers.
Do we remember the case of Prince Andrew and the girl; who was shipped over from America? Do we remember how she appeared on camera to be enjoying herself in his company, and how she had an all expenses paid trip over AND £15,000 as payment for her services, and then it appeared that she was somehow a victim ….
ollie989898
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A man should always behave as a gentleman, even if he is not a gentleman.
Prince Andrew was undoubtedly up to dubious things and he has had the shame and embarrassment of that car crash interview he gave. Case closed.
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And yet that's exactly how Jimmy Saville was exposed...
Danllan
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No, and you write on the self-evidently daft assumption that the documentary randomly found women who just happened to focus on the same fellow as their attacker. I have not seen this report, but I think it reasonable to presume that, as with others before, Brand's actions / behaviour have been fairly well know for some time. And, on that basis, there has been ample opportunity for women to discover that they were not alone.
I get all of that, and took particular pleasure from the fact that he was able to turn the tables on them.
And I don't for one minute doubt that it could be a set-up due to his (to me unfathomable) popularity and supposed political ideology.
But the guy is a humongous bell end, does he even really believe in a lot of the stuff he comes out with or just playing games to draw attention to himself?
Play with fire etc................................
It's a fair point.
And a lot of the headline cases seem to follow this sort of pattern.
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Isn't that how grooming works?