Wales 20mph speed limit in every town
- Thread starter bobk
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Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
If they get away with this one, I’m fairly confident that they will impose a 30mph limit on all rural unclassified roads. It will save lives and The World don’t you know.
Slightly off topic, but I feel that your comment above is actually hugely relevant when it comes to road design and layout.
I am more or less convinced, that too many highway engineers have little of no experience of driving or operating anything larger than a small hatchback car. Locally we have a series of Roundabout put in around Telford, where the Designers failed to realise the length and turning areas that a modern artic (or large spud trailer) needs. Surprise seemed to be the usual response when the infrastructure around said roundabout gets trashed because there is restricted room now....
As anyone who has approached Market Drayton Smithfield from the West, will have come across a similiar offering from Shropshire Council Highways design pen... An urban roundabout on a busy trunk road??????
When I was Chair of the local PC, I had the opportunity of meeting several HE's where new building works or road "improvements" were taking place. I would say for over 50% of them a "fair level of arrogance" was a mild description for their attitude, especially when they were queried on the likely effects on any project or the appropriateness.
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- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I don't have to imagine, I just have to drive to Carmarthen.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
oh, well, that's fine then! I didn't appreciate that you driven through Wales. For me to get to Carmarthen (11 miles) I have to go through Alltwalis, Rhydargaeau & Peniel, which I can remember were not so long ago 60 zones, now 20. I don't remember there being any accidents when it was all a 60 limit.
Paddington
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- Location
- Soggy Shropshire
If I'm driving along a road in Wales and I come to a board showing the town's/villages name, is that the boundary of the town ? I only ask because on trips across mid Wales we have driven through settlements of a few houses and never seen anybody about during the day, yet the distance between the nameboards may be a few miles.
Paddington
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- Location
- Soggy Shropshire
So, 1,000 people were surveyed on their views on a 20mph speed limit in a population of 3 million and already 250,000 have signed a petition saying they want the limit removed.
We got a new boss at work. His first job was to send a survey out to all our customers asking their needs, their future needs, how our company could fit those needs etc. We would then have our "roadmap". We got a large response, mainly along the lines of WTF ? and I've spent two hours doing your stupid survey when I could be something else. Management's view was we followed the recommendations of the survey. Staff's view was we didn't need a survey as we knew all the customers and if our business went pear shaped then it would be put down to insufficient data obtained and nothing to do with the management .
We got a new boss at work. His first job was to send a survey out to all our customers asking their needs, their future needs, how our company could fit those needs etc. We would then have our "roadmap". We got a large response, mainly along the lines of WTF ? and I've spent two hours doing your stupid survey when I could be something else. Management's view was we followed the recommendations of the survey. Staff's view was we didn't need a survey as we knew all the customers and if our business went pear shaped then it would be put down to insufficient data obtained and nothing to do with the management .
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Have a look at Llanllwni, Pencader on Google maps. It is admittedly not all 30mph [now 20] but illustrates the sort of villages commonplace in the area. It is a relatively quiet road all day long. It is a straight road for the most part and starts at the top at Aber Giâr where the village sign is, and ends somewhere beyond the fork to the B4436 and Jephson Ltd.
Use the satellite ‘Layers’ overlay to see the density and layout of houses. Do the same with Lampeter Road, Aberaeron which was fine at 30 but drastic all the way down to the river in town and out to Evans Body Repairs at 20 mph. Drop the street view guy down there. It’s a lovely town and the main A487 coast road and town centre can get very busy and congested, meriting the existing 20mph limits as they were, because frankly nobody could exceed that during the day most of the year anyway. But Lampeter Road? No! It is a favourite with the camera van to raise income because its natural driving speed is about 35mph and they caught people regularly doing just that in a 30 zone. Nobody has ever had an accident with a pedestrian there as far as I know. Not even when idiots drive through at 40+, ignoring all reasonable people’s limits and the legal one.
Use the satellite ‘Layers’ overlay to see the density and layout of houses. Do the same with Lampeter Road, Aberaeron which was fine at 30 but drastic all the way down to the river in town and out to Evans Body Repairs at 20 mph. Drop the street view guy down there. It’s a lovely town and the main A487 coast road and town centre can get very busy and congested, meriting the existing 20mph limits as they were, because frankly nobody could exceed that during the day most of the year anyway. But Lampeter Road? No! It is a favourite with the camera van to raise income because its natural driving speed is about 35mph and they caught people regularly doing just that in a 30 zone. Nobody has ever had an accident with a pedestrian there as far as I know. Not even when idiots drive through at 40+, ignoring all reasonable people’s limits and the legal one.
SilliamWhale
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And do lower speed limits necessarily make a difference on the number of serious traffic accidents?
What proportion of traffic accidents are caused by people ignoring speed limits/ under the influence/ignorant pedestrians etc?
SilliamWhale
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Or drinks/ drugs. People not looking with headphones in.
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- Location
- Cumbria
Petition: We want the Welsh Government to rescind and remove the disastrous 20mph law
The new 20mph law is coming into force on the 17th September and it will mark the end of having socialism in power in Wales. Welsh Government claim to have supporting evidence stating that reducing to 20mph EVERWHERE saves lives! Yet we get flyers merely claiming that it will, and opinions...
petitions.senedd.wales
DeeGee
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- Location
- North East Wales
If you mean that corrupt waste of oxygen Eluned Morgan, then she is basically a lying scheming apology for humanity who couldn’t run a two bob whelk stall.
She ticks all the boxes for Drakeford’s Taffia.
So, not a fan then??
it's pretyt much all in there https://speedcamerareport.co.uk/
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
We had a accident in the next village last week(40mph road).
The clock had stopped at 95 , the engine was loose on the road, having hit a wall on both sides of the road and a shop.
Driver walked out of it(denying that he was the driver),2 female passengers with life changing injuries. They had been drinking all day and high on coke.
Speed limits not going to make a difference to those types.
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- Location
- Devon
Might have been worse if they had hit a line of traffic dawdling along at 20.
Obviously hit enough lines already.
Had an incident a few years ago when a halfwit wiped himself out at what was estimated to be 80mph+ in a 60.
The Council then decided that this road was so dangerous, it now needed a 40 limit... Why/How the limit would have stopped the Darwin Award recipient was left unsaid.
No actual measure were put in place to slow traffic either....
