Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
Solved all their tb problems when they took the decision to house every thing 24/7 365 days a year.
Milk Price Tracker
- Thread starter rc mx110
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I don’t think it’s scary,I know a grazing herd that owe £5m with 500 cows,the value of their herd is always going to be low because they’re worth nothing to cull.
Maybe I’m being shafted , but bank manager has never asked me to value to the cattle when looking to borrow money. land owned, amount of cows milking and accounts is all they are interested in.
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
Its not. I just meant looking at that figure on its own. The value of their stock compared to average is vastly different. Take the difference off & I doubt its different to many. Some people may have big money tied up in land & buildings, theirs would be stock as well. Their sales show just how much & how easy it can be released.
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- somerset
how long is a piece of string ?
if they av 14,000litres in 305 days, they would probably milk well for 2 or even 3 years, without calving again. And for cows like that, calving is the danger point, its where udders become ugly, the risk of milk fevers, bad calving's etc.
Most of us have had cows at some stage, that have just carried on milking, in an extended lactation. We have a fr cow, that has given about 19,000 litres in a 2 year lactation, so 9,500 litres in a year, all we have lost, is a potential calf, and made the cow last longer. She is due again in november, as she was born 09, pretty good going. If she had calved in nov last year, she would probably been on the cull list. She could calve in again, and repeat the process, another 19,000 litres, or
its a conundrum, is it right, or wrong ? There's no doubt she is a profitable cow, reduced our replacement needs, by probably 2 hfrs. If we were strict block, with a shut down, she would be gone.
she is also very environmentally, very friendly, ticks a lot of boxes.
Not sure l would like a herd of them though ! And not saying wilsbro follow that policy, but it is an answer to the environmental problems we are faced with. That have to be solved at some stage.
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- somerset
the milking portion of that sale, av just under £4,000 head.
And l doubt they sold the really special ones. I don't know what the y/s av, they seemed to be priced, according to their breeding.
l do know, calves are reared on straw and ad-lib nuts. They looked fantastic !
Is the straw and nuts mixed together in a ration?
norton & Brooksbank took a video of 200 retained fresh calved heifers and posted it online prior to the sale.
Don’t think I’ve ever seen a lineup of such consistent quality ever. But still…
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- somerset
l am told it is straw in a rack, and ad-lib nuts in a hopper.
l asked a rep from the mill that supplies them.
l thought we were doing a good job at rearing calves, till l saw them !
and we feed straw, and ad-lib home mix, or grower nuts. So where does the 'extra' boost come from ? Or is it simply a matter of superior breeding ?
No one can call them run of the road cows, can they ?
Depends what little extras they put in the nuts when they’re made.
Nearly a £1million a year in interest though! That’s got to hurt a bit. Before you repay any capital back or any tax. Always find it amusing peoples attitude towards debt. That level of gearing takes some keeping up with. Especially in the years where you aren’t getting paid enough per litre to cover cost of production. I would think it would take generations to shift that without some rollover money or selling up. Good luck to them though.
With current milk price it going to be hard going, went down on the Saturday.
Kiss
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- North west
Don’t forget companies house it’s possible to only be telling half the story!
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- somerset
Farmer Keith
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- North Cumbria
1700 cows x 14400 litres @35ppl is an annual milk cheque of £8.5 million. Culls, subsidy’s, calf sales and good cow sales on top it’ll take an effort to spend it all surely?
I know of a large herd with a similar system, youngstock never go out & fed basically the same. Was seriously impressed how well everything looked & the growth rates. Turned out deccox was in the feed. I’m not saying it wasn’t good stockmanship but I’m sure having that in there didn’t do them any harm…
Exactly. If we could only carry the debt shown on companies House if be delighted.
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- Pembrokeshire
And if there cop is .36 ppl they’d be spending that and more