I am sure I have read that you are deemed to have management control of both sides of a roadside hedge - but - in CS I know a farm that got metreage deducted from hedgerow payments as they said payment could only be claimed on one side. Didnt I read @chaffcutter got something from RPA about being paid for both sides? I may be confusing it with something else.
I need to come and compare notes!
Ha I wasn't sure if you had sussed me! Give me a shout I'll put the kettle on. All very simple here though, grass and hedges...I need to come and compare notes!
I agree, you only have to have an average of 1 tree per 100m.
I've looked at the RPA layer for our hedges this afternoon.... its only about 70% accurate. it is missing hedges that are hidden from satellite by trees and elsewhere has trees marked as hedges...Thank god for that ,
Really the hegde length should be pre populated on the form , RPA have the measurements
I am trying to get my head around it but I confess I will probably get our agent to complete it - I just want to understand what they will be doing and making sure they dont miss something that might benefit us. I have yet to tackle the organic options at the other place - perhaps avoiding would be a better description.
In the same boat - weve got a mid-tier application in which involved a load of RLE1's and they havent been enacted yet so cannot see how we can do an SFI application yet when I know that whats on the maps is wrong/to be amended.
Yes missing stuff is my worry. I don't know what I don't know...
well under statute common law that is going to be interesting as the hedge saga proceeds especially when one neighbour wants 10 quid per 100 for a tree and the other neighbour wants to flail the hedge to death every August
Thanks Found it, link to "how to apply for SFI....." balls I haven't read that one
On hedge rows do not trust the rpa hedge lengthsThanks Found it, link to "how to apply for SFI....." balls I haven't read that one
5.1.5 How to enter a length into the SFI actions for hedgerows The hedgerow lengths shown on your digital maps are not used in your SFI application if you apply for: • HRW1 (assess and record hedgerow condition) • HRW2 (manage hedgerows) • HRW3 (maintain or establish hedgerow trees) Instead, you need to tell us the length of eligible hedgerows you want to enter into HRW1, HRW2 or HRW3. This length should correspond with what’s on the ground in the relevant land parcel. You can use the measuring tool on your digital maps to help you measure the length of a hedgerow. How to enter a length for HRW1 or HRW2 – one side of a hedgerow HRW1 (assess and record hedgerow condition) and HRW2 (manage hedgerows) pay for 1 side of the hedgerow. To apply for these actions, you need to: • enter a length (in metres) for 1 side of the hedgerow in the ‘Quantity’ box next to the action in the selected land parcel • select the relevant adjacent land parcel and enter the length for the other side of the hedgerow if you want to apply for HRW1 or HRW2 on both sides of the hedgerow 22 Guidance on how to apply for an SFI agreement – V.2 How to enter a length for HRW3 – both sides of a hedgerow HRW3 (maintain or establish hedgerow trees) pays for both sides of the hedgerow. To apply for
this action, you need to: • enter half the length (in metres) for 1 side of the hedgerow in the ‘Quantity’ box next to the action in the selected land parcel • select the relevant adjacent land parcel and enter half the length to apply for the other side of the hedgerow The only exception to this is if it’s a roadside hedgerow without an adjacent land parcel. In this case, include the full length of the relevant hedgerow in the selected land parcel.
I was on about increasing som it can be imported/ added i.e muck in its various forms or cropped e.g incorporate straw sow catch crops etcWhere is extra muck going to come from? There is pressure towards us all having fewer livestock and producing less muck
I am exactly the same as you, organic clover leys everywhere for NUM2 and claiming SAM 3 on any I intend to reseed with herbal leys in next 12 months. I logged onto the organic webinar given by defra/rpa yesterday, what a waste of time. they couldn't answer any questions raised and I think there were over a hundred questions which never even got attempted. I wanted them to answer if I could claim NUM2 on year 1. and change it to SAM 3 in year 2 and 3 if I reseeded a field. I don't know who to ask?Yes missing stuff is my worry. I don't know what I don't know...
there's no organic options as such but we've got clover everywhere so NUM2 is a no brainer then we'll look at SAM3 for anything we want to renew... next year could be a bit busy
Why on earth would you do that. Don't you want to monitor the state of your soils regardless of SFI?
Yes I was on that webinar. It didn't tell me much I didn't already know from reading the guidance. There were a lot of questions, I suppose it was to be expected that they couldn't answer them all but it really shows how there's a lot more information needed.
Yes, I think it's best to email any questions, then we can keep proof of the advice. Could I please ask what email address you used to ask your query?
Just the normal RPA [email protected]
