I suppose Boeing or Airbus could build you a tractor with airliner style reliability. Obviously it would cost you 100k per HP and you'd have to have a team of specialist technicians carry out a full inspection before every use. Plus you operators would have to undergo months of training and regular refresher sessions. I'm not really sure the money is in farming at the minute to pay for all that........
Tractor manufacture's need to up there game
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The adblue kit on the machines is a case of when it breaks down, not if it breaks down. Too many sensors, pumps and electronics. The diesels now are so good they rarely give trouble. The crap bolted on to them to do with emissions is absolutely terrible, costs a fortune in addition to the capital cost of the rest of the tractor (as well as the running costs), usually increases fuel consumption, and for no gain to the farm. DEF, SCR, EGR are not necessary on ag equipment. There aren't enough ag machines with diesels to make any difference to the huge amount emissions given off by the worlds vehicles and machinery.
Stw88
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Especially when half the worlds new tractors dont even have any of the emissions crap on them.
It’s getting worse mind!
And then we have to compete with the cheap imports produced using them!
glasshouse
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Your 8040 seemed to break down a lot.?Hmm, never really heard of modern tractors breaking down that much ?
not like the 70’s & 80’s with final drive & transmission failures being relatively common
30 odd years ago when I first left school, the farmer I worked for was very concerned about spending £28,000 on a new Ford 7610, far too much money. They weren't building those tractors like they used to, the use of an LCD display in the dash could well have brought the farm to financial ruin. They were never going to be as reliable as a 3000 or 135.
They they got replaced with the 40 Series, and all of a suddent the 10 series was held in high regard compared to the new, fangled 40 Series. The early 40 Series certainly had issues, but they were sorted out in the end and now people say how good the 40 series were. We have two and they're now worn out.
It's been the same when every new tractor is launched, don't need this level of technology, too unreliable, don't make ;em like they used to, it's all or mostly crap.
The new tractors are certainly eye wateringly expensive, I was very surprised when looking, more in hope than expection, to get "my" tractir changed, it's gone up from £88,000 or so 10 years ago to £185,000 for a new version of pretty much the same tractor. But so has everything else, except commodities
They they got replaced with the 40 Series, and all of a suddent the 10 series was held in high regard compared to the new, fangled 40 Series. The early 40 Series certainly had issues, but they were sorted out in the end and now people say how good the 40 series were. We have two and they're now worn out.
It's been the same when every new tractor is launched, don't need this level of technology, too unreliable, don't make ;em like they used to, it's all or mostly crap.
The new tractors are certainly eye wateringly expensive, I was very surprised when looking, more in hope than expection, to get "my" tractir changed, it's gone up from £88,000 or so 10 years ago to £185,000 for a new version of pretty much the same tractor. But so has everything else, except commodities
When was a 7610 28k?
Suffolk Serf
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Always best not to buy early models of a new range. Best to let them get the niggles sorted first. That way you'll never be the local trendsetter but will have fewer breakdowns.
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certainly not in 1993.
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Brand new 6930 with FL/PTO, autopower and everything else you can think of on it was £44750 if I remember right in 2007?
I seem to remember being told a 956XL Turbo 4wd was £20k but I may be wrong on that one
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Trucks are no better than tractors. Of our fleet of 9 sub 4 yr old Swedish and Dutch built trucks, 3 of them have had serious engine issues in past 12 months. Serious as in inside engine bits ending up outside of engine. And if you want to see electrical problems, buy a 6yr old Iveco
Chae1
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Pretty sure I bought a 6420s for around 30k in 2005. 7810 sounds expensive.
2wheels
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sorry, i was thinking 7610s ceased production in mid 80s but i see they went on till 1992. 
doesn't time fly.
doesn't time fly.
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You are about bang on with those figures; think the 956 weights where in the price as well. Still got both.
My 7810 was £20000 in 1991
Last of the Gen III 7610's were £28,000 list
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We run mainly 80s & 90s IH/Case IH tractors. They do break down and need repairs, but nothing that can't be sorted out with some spanners, a multimeter and the mk1 eyeball. We have a bloke who does most of the complex stuff who worked for a dealer when they were new so it works very nicely.
The last new tractor was a 695 Stockman Special in 1994 - £10K I think weren't they?
The last new tractor was a 695 Stockman Special in 1994 - £10K I think weren't they?