- Location
- Mendips Somerset
sort of like using a part of another countries flag strategically placed , to appear British in the cabinet
The Death of Red Tractor is coming..... ???
- Thread starter Farma Parma
- Start date
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Farm Assurance was originally sold to the industry as a way of avoiding each buyer wanting to do their own audit. It has spectacularly failed in that regard as they all do an audit, on top of RT.
IF the retailers want to have that 'assurance', then let them do all of it. No need for a farmer paid scheme at all, which has not produced what it was intended for.
IF the retailers want suppliers to jump through the hoops of THEIR schemes, then they will have to make it lucrative enough for them to do so.
It's surely that simple?
If not they will ship it in no doubt
- Location
- North Somerset.
And for the defence of due diligence in the event of a Food Safety Act 1990 prosecution to be available to the retailer at the producers expense. hHaving seen how the producers fell for that one the cartel have ramped up their control of the primary producers using the Red Tractor protection racket ever since.
It is now nothing more than a market manipulation tool for the benefit of the BRC.
- Location
- Essex
Absolutely. They played a blinder by getting their suppliers to pay for the scheme. Possibly one reason why there's so much unnecessary admin associated with it. They ain't bovvered.
Pistonbroke
Member
Our market has given up announcing whether they're farm assured or not. Someone asked a buyer about it and he said" they'll all be farm assured when they go up the ramp"
Isnt he great!!
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
They still do at Welshpool, which must surely be one of the biggest fat lamb marts in the country. Some of the abattoir buyers can only bid on FA lambs, but who knows what fraud goes on later on.
It would be interesting to do a proper comparison of similar types of lambs at supermarket/export weights that are FA and not. I haven’t done it for a while but, when I have, there has sometimes (not always) been around an 8p/kg premium.
- Location
- Mendips Somerset
They must have seen RT as the gift that just kept giving, and saved policing their own schemes
Most have it stated against the animal and markets are still posting adverts that its better to be FA on some stock
Pistonbroke
Member
God knows what goes on , paperwork wise. Heard one buyer saying how he'd bought 300 texels cross ewe lambs out of Ludlow red market for someone to run round and sell as yearlingsMost have it stated against the animal and markets are still posting adverts that its better to be FA on some stock
Steevo
Member
- Location
- Gloucestershire
Have you asked your supplier for an assurance certificate for that water?
I mean if it's so important for food.....then surely it must be equally vital for the water we drink!
Steevo
Member
- Location
- Gloucestershire
I turned off at that point. Didn't see the point wasting my time.
Words are cheap. Actions speak far louder.
MB's actions against UK farming speak far louder than any platitudes she offers in the form of words.
Steevo
Member
- Location
- Gloucestershire
Has anyone tried asking their local fish and chip shop or greasy spoon if they can supply Michelin star food for the same price as they show on the menu?!
"But the customers demand it...."
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Exactly, we pay into a scheme and get no benefit in return. It’s pointless.
No premium can be achieved by trying to market globally traded grain commodities as a premium product. You can have all the farm assurance gold plating in the world but with cereals what the machine says about the sample at intake is all that matters.
Beef and Lamb everyone I know has binned assurance cos there’s no return.
Total waste of time and costing farmers a fortune!
As for red tractor management claiming they’re getting death threats! What a load of utter tripe. It’s the most pathetic excuse I’ve ever heard to avoid answering some direct but relevant questions that affect our businesses by people we pay money to to provide a service!
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Red tractor inspector lied about my inspection and I had to return from the hospital bed where my mother in law was on the way out to photograph where a cobweb had been removed or they wouldn’t pick the milk up the following day.self important time wasters
Most of inspectors can be summed up in the phrase… failed farmers
- Location
- Yorks
RT is atrocious.
Could ai interest you in thinking about joining the British Farming Union?
We aren't going to stand for it any longer.
RT have picked us off one by one, we're weak and fragmented, and all NFU have done is help RT spread their tentacles even further into our markets.
BFU aims to get all farmers together and effectively form a group negotiation.
Fragmentation? just like a Grenade? no winners there?
- Location
- South Northants
I’m going to start a water assurance company called Red Herring.
