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Copied from the above doc and in several places only refers to min standard legal requirements. Nothing about RT goldplating.
On that note how will any bulk sample fail.?From talking to a friend who has some involvement in trading grain internationally this is my understanding.
As a boat is loaded a sample is taken at least every 200t. So for a 60,000t vessel that’s 300 samples.
A sub-sample is then drawn from each of the 300 samples and mixed together and sent off for testing. (It was indicated that it might not be unheard of for samples to be sent to several different labs and the most favorable set of results cherry picked.)
Tests include, dioxins, pesticide residues, PCBs, PAHs Heavy metals and mycotoxins for cereals. And all of the above plus salmonella for oilseeds.
A copy of those results are sent to the end user when they purchase a tonnage from that vessel. It is then up to the end user to decide what level of testing they wish to undertake at their intake.
If the grain had a TGW of 50g then a 2kg sample would have 40,000 grains in it.One that note how will any bulk sample fail.?
No I don't think so.Humble village farmer ,is that something that has been sujested in the past?
They send our lorry back to farmDoubt any is tested , after all they can't send it back
Yet I thought we had to keep similar RT records for 7 years. That's odd.Boat results coming in and out are tested for the same as ours, kg/hl, moisture, protein, admix, these results are kept for 3 months. I don't know if imported is tested for anything else like pesticide residues, I believe someone has to sign it off as being produced for human consumption or similar. That however is likely nothing more than a signature (or key stroke nowadays) that leads back to nowhere.
Perhaps we can get some of the resident merchants to comment on this?
It's about the fees.It's about control.
I suppose it just goes to show what influence BRC has on RT (and what a poor job NFU and AHDB have done representing our interests); RT could have simply sat with the same standards for over 20 years and us, their customers, would be more or less happy (or at least not raising a mob with flaming torches and pitchforks).Are rt now getting rattled because the people they are sucking easy money for nothing from, are starting to see the light.?
From talking to a friend who has some involvement in trading grain internationally this is my understanding.
As a boat is loaded a sample is taken at least every 200t. So for a 60,000t vessel that’s 300 samples.
A sub-sample is then drawn from each of the 300 samples and mixed together and sent off for testing. (It was indicated that it might not be unheard of for samples to be sent to several different labs and the most favorable set of results cherry picked.)
Tests include, dioxins, pesticide residues, PCBs, PAHs Heavy metals and mycotoxins for cereals. And all of the above plus salmonella for oilseeds.
A copy of those results are sent to the end user when they purchase a tonna
Directors fees so they can continue to tell us RT doesn't make a profit. What a scam.It's about the fees.
I asked for quotes from a testing lab, initially they quoted £700.
But when I said it needed to be valid for international trade they said that they would need to use different test methods to comply with those standards and quoted in the region of £1000. I think a little under half of that cost was for the dioxin test alone.
That would have been early 2022 I got those quotes.
And every pointless meeting these rogues convene is for the purpose to continue to ramp up their out of pocket expenses etc. Don't need a meeting ....they're all corrupt and the racket of RT and all of them should be binned. Non Farming Union are complicit in all this praising RT at every opportunity and there are still some that support this union.I suppose it just goes to show what influence BRC has on RT (and what a poor job NFU and AHDB have done representing our interests); RT could have simply sat with the same standards for over 20 years and us, their customers, would be more or less happy (or at least not raising a mob with flaming torches and pitchforks).
Or maybe it’s the ‘corporate effect’. The MD and board can’t really justify having all the separate groups working for them looking at standards and reporting back, and they can’t justify their high remuneration if at each meeting they always decide “Naa, the standards are fine-leave them as is”. They have to FEEL like they are justifying their existence by making a change hence the yearly ratcheting up of standards.
Either way or both, it stinks and must be dismantled- no simply allowing RT to hit the reset button and start again- we know how that WILL go!
Sorry, the physical sample is kept for 3 months. The results may be kept longer, but without the physical sample they're pretty worthless.Yet I thought we had to keep similar RT records for 7 years. That's odd.
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Practical interpretation I don’t know, someone could ask them I suppose? As read it doesn’t indicate Dioxins being a routine (expensive) test parameter thoughso no need to test for that unless you have a gas dryer ?
From memory I think if the gatekeepers hazard analysis shows there is little risk of dioxin issues then that test is not needed. ie the grain hasn’t been dried.Practical interpretation I don’t know, someone could ask them I suppose? As read it doesn’t indicate Dioxins being a routine (expensive) test parameter though