im not a purely arable farmer , I made this perfectly clear in my post so why the riposte, but ive a couple of friends who are and are now actively looking into the possibilities that similar actions could deliver for them .
The winter bird food is mostly on pp that has been" improved" with the addition of ryegrass is reasonably productive on a 2 cut so without taking a 3rd which ive found more or less costs the same/ bale( in fact more) as what we can buy haylage in for so if left to go to seed after 2nd cut with no fertilizer then topped as early as possible in spring will fulfill the aims and leave us £/acre .Mindst we dont graze these particular fields over winter in our present system . The temp grass will be enhanced with a legume addition to comply as will some pp , its amazing how much has come into the crop if not cut late this year or hard grazed in our on farm trial patch , and then go into a combinable autumn crop. Its only the stubble turnips or similar that will go into a spring crop after ww and then will more than be likely temp grass or if we have enough grass could be beans .
Try it, if it accepts the option it will work.
I'd agree try it but pretty sure you can't. Not even sure now how you can change pp to arable if ploughed up. Can you just change land cover? Will this change land use classification? Could try changing pp to tg01 on cover and see if it works - unlikely I guess
I've done exactly the same application as you have by the looks of it. Comes to a little more than the 2023 BPS payment. I'm 2/3rds grass too. Waiting on the digital signature bi apparently.
| Eligible land type | Eligible land use code | Compatible land cover |
|---|---|---|
| Arable land, including temporary grassland | Arable crops, Leguminous and nitrogen-fixing crops, FA01 and TG01 | |
| Improved permanent grassland | PG01 | Permanent grassland |
I've been wondering about the requirement to notify of removal of PP, wasn't it a european cross compliance reg. Cross compliance ends in January, so is it necessary, or just bide your time and wait for CC to be a thing of the past?
Would only be a concern if they were 'proper' permanent pastures that hadn't been touched for decades. If there is evidence of 'improvement' (lime, fert, chem) and they're just leys > 5 years old, fire away.
It is eligible on “improved” permanent pasture
i cleared the issues you had by changing the land use
It's possibly an issue that's easily solved.
The system gets upset if any none BPS eligible land use is assigned to the parcel. I still need to resolve a couple where the parcel boundary goes to the brook and includes bits of wood/scrub. 4ha parcel that is 3.95ha arable and 0.05ha WO1, computer says nooo. I could just change the WO1 to an arable code and it would work but then I would be claiming against ineligible land...
you can only claim the 3.95 by changing the area on the application
What about whole parcel options? Sam1, num1, ipm1, ipm4 claims would be against 4ha despite only 3.95ha being eligible and thus an overclaim, would it not?
I used the area area the system threw up usually it did not include ineligible parts
frankly it really needs to come to more than BPS 2020... inflation has taken 20% in real terms and the costs and income foregone swallow up between 50% and 100% of the payment rate for most options...
