Rat problems in old grain stores

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
I had one sitting on the window sill looking in last night
Kids wanted to bring it in and give it and stroke
They feed the damn fox at the back door , as well as a hedgehog šŸ¤£
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CPF

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Arable Farmer
This is what we do, when putting the rat poison down, father and grandfather always used to do it ,mix sugar with it and make it sweeter then what theyā€™re eating
 
google jonathon tunmore will find him on face book has loads of old tractors and runs normac.. ratatac , is bussines name
he uses some blue paste called venom it works we have him he would soon clear you , and they have pack of dogs for ratting toošŸ™ˆšŸ«£
 

manhill

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I was told the trick is to have the traps down before the rats arrive as it's their scouts which come first and lay scent trails for the mob to follow. Sounds reasonable and I did get thanks from one who had followed the advice and caught rats where no signs had been seen before.

I am pretty sure edible air rifle pellets are available, made out of sugar, for use in feed stores. I've done a search and was amazed to find literally dozens of brands and types of pellets -- but none made of sugar. Presumably, if you contacted these suppliers they would know about edible pellets. Then you could supply one of the dozens of kind people advertising the "free" service they offer in these columns! I wonder what the going rate is for rat shooting?

If you fire malteasers you can come and use me for target practise!
 

ladycrofter

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
I had a lot of hen houses and feed stored, they defied every effort. Nothing is rat proof! We found that cats are the only thing that really works. The smell of the cat and the rats go somewhere else. We got them from Cats Protection, they always have outdoor cats needing homes.
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
I had a lot of hen houses and feed stored, they defied every effort. Nothing is rat proof! We found that cats are the only thing that really works. The smell of the cat and the rats go somewhere else. We got them from Cats Protection, they always have outdoor cats needing homes.
When i was a boy my mother had a large tribe of cats. Most were semi wild and lived in the farm buildings only coming to house every night for feeding. We kept among other things chickens they were another motley crew whose main determination in life was to peck one of the flock to death. It seemed they had some strange innate capacity built into their very small brain to unanimously pick out the next victim.
besides the cats and chickens we had a large herd of cows who worked hard to keep the farm viable.
alongside this were the rats, no matter how hard we tried the rats were everywhere despite the efforts of the cats which in the main part was non existent apart from one or two moggies.
it is a fallacy cats will do anything to keep down rats, small birds galore, the odd rabbit, but gangs of rats are too much for anything but the most determined cat
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
Legacy type farm buildings can be very difficult to secure against rodent ingress and using quantities of poison year on year isnā€™t great. Thatā€™s why we went to central storage.
This.

At 55yo, I costed putting in a new grain store for the arable area here.... and then contract farmed out the lot on the basis that the level of borrowing was unsustainable.
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
A well known breakfast cereal brand had an issue a few years ago after cat faeces was found smeared through an entire processing line.
It had to be stripped down by an external cleaning contractor, with the cleaning cost and loss of a weeks worth of production billed to the supplier.
Do they not run the grain over a cleaner before processing it?
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
This thread just highlights a national problem with aged out of date not fit for purpose grainstores on farms. The money presently being spaffed on feeding birds would be better spent on new storage IMO, be it central or on farm. This would create economic growth, employment etc and would really improve standards but no, itā€™s all about ā€œmoney for old ropeā€ enviro schemes and import the grain from places out of sight.
Frank henderson wrote in his book that if the war ministry had allocated steel to build bins, to we would not have needed to import grain as so much less would be lost to rats
 

Farmersboy

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Location
South Lancashire
A mains electric fencer. The wire is 1-2 inches above the grain walls all round. Across the floor in front of the heap, 3x2 wood with the wire on insulators raised 1-2 inches up, connected with a lead to the wall top wire
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
A mains electric fencer. The wire is 1-2 inches above the grain walls all round. Across the floor in front of the heap, 3x2 wood with the wire on insulators raised 1-2 inches up, connected with a lead to the wall top wire
I have posted in the past that when i was a child we bought a farm which had been a victorian model farm . They had electricity around the farm long before the mains . This was an 80 volt DC system wired with bare twin + and - strained wires running parallel around the buildings in china insulators in the eaves. To run a light it was simply a task of hooking up with a couple of crocodile clips, even small motors could be run in this way.
when the mains arrived our predecessors had taken the cheap way out and just hooked live and neutral to the wires no earth .
although much had been disconnected some areas were still live when we arrived and it was not uncommon to hear a loud squeal as another rat got fried Crossing these two wires.
i am definitely not suggesting this is an answer to the OPā€™s issues
 

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