GFC disgrace: Here's what NFU, AHDB and RT have signed us up for

delilah

Member
Red Tractor's Greener Farms Commitment.

Turns out it's linked to the "WWF Basket", which wants to reduce advertising spend on meat/dairy, and reduce meat consumption by 20%.

NFU Deputy President said the "principle" of the GFC was good. Seemingly, if what F Weekly has printed is correct, they will have known about the GFC being introduced to back up the WWF Basket.

I can't understand how any farming organisation would help WWF/Tesco when their blueprint is to reduce meat intake by 20%. It will devastate our industry which is already under massive profitability pressure with BPS vanishing.

It wouldn't just affect England. It would affect whole of UK.

Farming representatives on RT Board have either knowingly agreed to this, or were asleep on the job.

You all need to put the WWF involvement to one side.

You all need to put the 'less meat and dairy' to one side.

If WWF walked away from this tomorrow, would it all go away ? No. If not them, it would be someone else. They are the PR company for this, the Saatchi and Saatchi. Nothing more.

20 years ago the 'Breaking the armlock' alliance sought to raise awareness of the corporate control of our food chain. That alliance was largely environmental/ social justice NGO's, with some august farming bodies such as the Independent fruit growers.

Meat and dairy wasn't on the table 20 years ago. It is only there now because it is a topical issue for the cartel to use as a Trojan horse. The issue is control. It was the issue 20 years ago when none of you would listen, and it is the issue now. Don't get hung up on the meat angle.
 

Banana Bar

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bury St Edmunds
According to Tom Bradshaw it's the "procedure" not "the principle" which was wrong with RT/GFC.

This means NFU agree in principle with reducing dietary meat by 20% and reducing spending on meat/dairy advertising.

I hope NFU members are happy.

I'm not happy.

The British Farming Union are here for anyone who wants change from NFU representation.
I’ve just joined BFU. The senior leadership of the NFU are a disgrace to their members, I just hope they take a mighty slip from the greasy pole they are all so eager to climb.

BB
 

digger64

Member
Red Tractor's Greener Farms Commitment.

Turns out it's linked to the "WWF Basket", which wants to reduce advertising spend on meat/dairy, and reduce meat consumption by 20%.

NFU Deputy President said the "principle" of the GFC was good. Seemingly, if what F Weekly has printed is correct, they will have known about the GFC being introduced to back up the WWF Basket.

I can't understand how any farming organisation would help WWF/Tesco when their blueprint is to reduce meat intake by 20%. It will devastate our industry which is already under massive profitability pressure with BPS vanishing.

It wouldn't just affect England. It would affect whole of UK.

Farming representatives on RT Board have either knowingly agreed to this, or were asleep on the job.
I think we need to set up coop groups/channels to export our produce especially basic commodities , anything that stays will be sold as it is 🇬🇧 no RT etc etc take it or leave it - go round them they can reimport it if they wish and label how they wish (they to do this now anyway when it suits them ) .
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
I’ve just joined BFU. The senior leadership of the NFU are a disgrace to their members, I just hope they take a mighty slip from the greasy pole they are all so eager to climb.

BB
Welcome aboard.

We're not moving quite as quickly as we'd like, but hopefully heading in the right direction. It's building momentum all the time, with both members and other organisations contacting us and thinking along similar lines.

I just wonder if our so called representatives have been taking us for mugs and just see us as an income source.

No salaries or expenses have ever been paid from BFU membership money. Up to now, totally run by volunteers who just want to see some sense in our industry. In fact, many of the supporters have actually paid for things out of their own pockets. e.g. getting leaflets printed, paying for Facebook ads, paying for F Weekly advert last month, etc.

We don't do gravy, although at some point we'll get more achieved if there's paid staff or work done on a per job basis.
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
I think we need to set up coop groups/channels to export our produce especially basic commodities , anything that stays will be sold as it is 🇬🇧 no RT etc etc take it or leave it - go round them they can reimport it if they wish and label how they wish (they to do this now anyway when it suits them ) .
I think Association of Independent Meat Suppliers are probably behind farmers and don't like Red Tractor. If that's the case, then us farmers should get behind them.
 

digger64

Member
I think Association of Independent Meat Suppliers are probably behind farmers and don't like Red Tractor. If that's the case, then us farmers should get behind them.
Outlet channels need to be created on a larger scale so no one has to be a member , it isnt really an issue with sheep , but most other things its unavoidable -that's why they promote WLA .
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Welcome aboard.

We're not moving quite as quickly as we'd like, but hopefully heading in the right direction. It's building momentum all the time, with both members and other organisations contacting us and thinking along similar lines.

I just wonder if our so called representatives have been taking us for mugs and just see us as an income source.

No salaries or expenses have ever been paid from BFU membership money. Up to now, totally run by volunteers who just want to see some sense in our industry. In fact, many of the supporters have actually paid for things out of their own pockets. e.g. getting leaflets printed, paying for Facebook ads, paying for F Weekly advert last month, etc.

We don't do gravy, although at some point we'll get more achieved if there's paid staff or work done on a per job basis.

Reform UK
Agriculture

;)
 

digger64

Member
Utterly shocking

......... Again

i’m beginning to think this is the end of uk agriculture ? why wouldn’t you just put land into sfi options instead ?
Looks like there is no " instead " how I read it - they want to only source produce from land in enviro schemes . Isnt SFI the bait for the rat trap ?
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
I think Association of Independent Meat Suppliers are probably behind farmers and don't like Red Tractor. If that's the case, then us farmers should get behind them.
I would not think that the Livestock Auctioneers will be very chuffed if there is a push to reduce their income stream from selling livestock...

"Yep, AHDB, NFU and Red Tractor have signed us up to reducing dietary meat/dairy by 20%."
 

Swarfmonkey

Member
Location
Hampshire
Just to be clear on all this. WWF approached nobody.

Dave Lewis, Terry Jones and other key players in the corporate control of our food system dreamt this up, then set about finding a naive/skint enough organisation to be the public front.

Don't go thinking it was in any way driven by the 'tree huggers'. WWF will find themselves ostracized by the many environmental organisations working on food and farming.

WWF is not naïve, and it's certainly not skint (93 million income for WWF-UK last year), so why go into bat for them?

It's about the intersection of interests. Tesco think they can have a larger margin on PBMS (Plant Based Manufactured Shyte, catchy eh?) than they can on meat. WWF has anti livestock zealots at the helm. Therefore both have their interests served.
 
Absolutely, i agree, but where do we start?
What do you propose?
It's a job to know where to start imo!
sign up to the BFU - only a tenner but the more of us there are the more people like AHDB are having to listen. Tell your neighbours, friends and folk at market because we are making a difference!
 

Green oak

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Essex
This pee'd me of today. We can’t even supply f**king mushrooms.
 

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