primmiemoo
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Is your comment in good faith?
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primmiemoo
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Who he? I don't see any date for the speech, so it needs some context, please.
Well worth a watch,short speech given to the European Parliament.
It was sent to me but it must be fairly recent as it’s referring to the German and Dutch farmers protests.
primmiemoo
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It's too shorn of context to fathom. For all we know, he could be a plant for the fossil fuels lobby, wrenching legitimate concerns off course for political gain ~ for instance, German farmers are protesting against fuel duty, but they're being steered into non-farming unrest by the far right out there.
essex man
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Yes
essex man
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Ahh!
The "far right"
There's always a bogeyman to point at.
What qualifies someone as "far right" rather than "right"?
essex man
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Those poor farmers being "steered"!
They are too stupid to notice this , i guess?
I think he’s on message so why you would discount him I’m not sure. Personally I wouldn’t be bothered with him being on the side off the fossil fuel lobby better that than the loony left environmental lobby.
I designed, built and live in a passive house, heated by a GSHP, i have a passive heating and cooling air supply linked to a heat recovery unit, I collect rain water to run all my gray water needs, washing, toilets, hose pipes, I have solar hot water heating my home and hot water, I have solar electric so now my home will generate on average all the electric it will consume each year if not a little more.
I have cut down my car mileage to around 2k miles per year, by limiting journeys to essential, this more for time saving as much as anything, make one journey do more.
and the farm has miles of 300-year-old hedgerows, 3 woods, that Me and my dad planted 40 years ago, and we have moved over to direct drilling so have cut our fuel use by 40% and moved to using sewage sludge to cut nitrogen demands. and we have always had permanent grass on some land on the farm. my farm averages about 50kwh of electric per month, i run older equipment, and combine my own crops, and catch rain water to spray with.
I expect at some point I will buy a second-hand EV but on my milage, my current car will last for 5 plus more years, it will be about 15 years old by then.
I recycle and avoid waste, so I do what I can when I can.
the upside to all those things, is they make me savings in both my time and money. I expect my home to be net zero carbon, and zero money to heat and live in going forward. my remaining bills for water, council tax, and insurance I doubt I can do anything about.
I have posted many times in renewables threads on these topics.
do what you can, when you can.
failing to plan, is planning to fail.
energy is still linked to fossil fuels, until it's not energy prices can be volatile, reducing your exposure to these risks is sensible. I have now de risked all my homes energy costs and they are expected to be zero going forward.
M-J-G
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Do you have kids?
M-J-G
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If are referring to CO2 warming the planet, then you definitely won't convince me of that, mainly because anything historical regarding temperature doesn't suggest that.
If you are referring to people saying that they've seen some weather events in their life time that's just nonsense, the 70 or 80 years that people are on the planet for is no sign of anything when it comes to climate. 1 second of sunshine doesn't make it a sunny day.
I used to have faith similar to yours until the past couple of years, I bought into the agenda too, and I would have argued the that people were causing global warming with anyone, mainly because I was brought up with that doctrine in schools and media, but as I've gotten older I have looked into the situation more, and I no longer buy the con.
These debates don't get any better, I know one thing for certain, what will happen will happen, if you wish to waste your time and money on fossil fuels that's your choice, the end result will be you end up paying more long term, and open yourself up to any taxes the governments are starting to impose, I made a plan, and as I can afford to do so I make investments that reduce my need for fossil fuels, as that seems the safest option. it's not like fossil fuels are infinite like the sun is.
so rather than complaining about current taxes (fuel duty etc), avoid them and potential new ones by planning sensibly. you cannot make your own fuel, but you can make electric, and capture heat, from the sun, use that to your advantage and move your consumption away from fossil fuels you cannot make, to consume the energy you can make.
farmers are better positioned than most to do so, take advantage of that advantage.
so rather than complaining about current taxes (fuel duty etc), avoid them and potential new ones by planning sensibly. you cannot make your own fuel, but you can make electric, and capture heat, from the sun, use that to your advantage and move your consumption away from fossil fuels you cannot make, to consume the energy you can make.
farmers are better positioned than most to do so, take advantage of that advantage.
merino
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I love it, how utterly unhinged you're getting.
The secrets of the universe are known to you and possibly a select few others. Logical conclusion time, are you a sinister cabal man? Or maybe a believer in some sort of magic?
yes thanks.
why so personal?
does having children affect how I should think?
I built my house when they were 3 and 5.
I built my house the way I did to save me money, fix costs are always the best things to reduce. reducing what it will cost to live in a house long term will reap the biggest savings.
the first 7 years my house made me money i.e. it earnt me more than it cost me to live in it then it cost me about £1500 per year for my energy all in for about 5 years then it started to creep up as electric got more expensive, now it's back to free, after investing in solar with a 5-year payback.
was any of it, just for climate no, but all those choices have rewarded me very well. but all those choices were mine to make and pay for up front.
I used to have an oil boiler, costs were creeping up and never down.
M-J-G
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Me too.
Some people say that adding to the population is one of the greatest contributing factors to warming the planet that there is.
I don't believe in man made climate change, but a lot of the planet saviors say so.
M-J-G
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Since you are resorting to insults I will take it that it is you who is struggling to find balance.
merino
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I love that too.
Are you going to get an adult to tell me off?
Cause you're better than the truth?
Storeman
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If you don't agree with the left, they label you far right.
M-J-G
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merino
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C02 is a greenhouse gas.
The world is warming.
The climate is changing.
And you are a child.