New Ranger vs New Amarok

lloyd

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Location
Herefordshire
I really don’t like the defenders to be honest. I think they are sparse inside and the insurance costs are sky high according to a friend who has one. The first year he paid £700. Last year it was £1700 and he’s got to renew in April so just waiting for the quotes now. I can insure a £50,000 Amarok for £700 with the Nfu.
Why does the new Amarok look so big ?
i've seen a few now and they don't look much smaller than a Dodge ram.
 
It s the same basic engine as fitted to the discovery,Ford I believe (bloody shite)
The Ford AJD-V6 was a 3.0 fitted to the Disco 4, 5 and Rangie Sport.

The 3.2 fitted to the Ranger from 2011 on is an in line 5, unconnected to the PSA/Ford 3.2 above.

The 3.0 Amarok has a 3.0 version of the AJD-V6. I does not have the Ford In line 5 fitted

 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
don't go near the 2.0 litre engine,fitted in quite a few makes now,wet cambelt :banghead:
service schedule to replace is 10 years or 120k
they usually fail 60-70k :mad:
They did on early Transits but the engine is now on its second generation in both Transit and Ranger and a few Ford cars. The belt is different and service intervals have been reduced somewhat. Changing the belt is simple and should be done between 60 and 80k miles. If an old model, 60k miles. While there are plenty of Transits where the engine has failed, there does not appear to be an issue with later models. They also had injector problems at one point where Continental supplied a big batch of faulty ones [to more than just Ford]. All are the subject of an ongoing warranty/replacement campaign.

Biggest issue with both VW and Ford is that they have long waits, sometimes months, for parts, like bumpers, windscreens, body panels.
 

scottrac

Member
Location
lincolnshire
They did on early Transits but the engine is now on its second generation in both Transit and Ranger and a few Ford cars. The belt is different and service intervals have been reduced somewhat. Changing the belt is simple and should be done between 60 and 80k miles. If an old model, 60k miles. While there are plenty of Transits where the engine has failed, there does not appear to be an issue with later models. They also had injector problems at one point where Continental supplied a big batch of faulty ones [to more than just Ford]. All are the subject of an ongoing warranty/replacement campaign.

Biggest issue with both VW and Ford is that they have long waits, sometimes months, for parts, like bumpers, windscreens, body panels.
what age do you mean when you say second generation?
the brand new customs have gone back to a chain? (so i am told)
seen plenty of 19/20/21 plates with blown engines
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
The suspension is different, they are sith african built.

Engines and trans blowing up in oz and im a ranger fan, keeping my 2019 for now, will just repower ot when engine gives in.

Ant...
The V6 has had a few early failures, mainly due to a faulty turbo drain tube which may result in the engine oil being dumped and subsequent seizure. No word about crankshaft shearing on these SA models yet but promised updates over the years in LR applications made zero difference to failure rates.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
what age do you mean when you say second generation?
the brand new customs have gone back to a chain? (so i am told)
seen plenty of 19/20/21 plates with blown engines
Since they started building them at Struandale, South Africa. There are apparently around 35 major engineering differences and more minor ones between these and prior versions. Ford just had to sort them out because the Transit’s reputation was being tarnished and the Transit is a key profit centre for them. They now say that it is the benchmark for all medium duty light diesel engines worldwide. It certainly seems to be leagues ahead of the 2.0 Land Rover Ingenium diesel engines which are a total disaster and directly comparable.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I think that’s the way I’m going with it. No service or mot costs for 5 years is worth around £3000. Then with the extended warranty it’ll be worth a bit more if I decide to sell it after 50k miles.
Research both service and extended warranty terms and conditions carefully. Both are limited in miles unless you pay extra for more. You can have similar warranty and relatively cheap service package from Ford for a fraction of the prices some are quoting here.
 

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