Lakesdigger
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I agree with what you are saying but as luck would have it for ford the knock on effect COVID had on vehicle sales and availability might have helped them kick the problems a bit further down the road.
New Ranger vs New Amarok
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Cowabunga
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Except that they have indeed very significantly modified the engines in the middle of Covid and on the introduction of the new generation Ranger where a brand new production line was installed at the Struandale, Port Elizabeth engine plant. I believe that the mods have also been added to legacy engine plants that also make this engine, ie Dagenham UK.
It is not a new engine now and indeed it was introduced a full eight years ago in 2016 with the bi-turbo in 2018.
scottrac
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hopefully with the new ones going back to a chain they should have less problems 
Johnnyboxer
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Do Mercedes still make one?
Used to be a re-badged Nissan
essex man
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They have changed the material the wet belt is made from apparently.
It was suggested to me to change it every 20k to be safe , funny... haven't bought one yet, sticking with 16 plate ranger for now
It was suggested to me to change it every 20k to be safe , funny... haven't bought one yet, sticking with 16 plate ranger for now
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No. No Mitsubishi, no Nissan, no Mercedes. Choice now Ranger/Amarok, Toyota, Isuzu, SangYong. Think that's all.
Johnnyboxer
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He’s a Toyota anti …..That's a very generous appraisal of the longevity of the Ford engine.
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4 days into a V6 Ranger here, limited use yet but so far, very very pleased !! Everything about it is better than the Navara's i've had before ..... as it should be for twice the money V6 is a massive step up and it certainly presses on, although it looks like so does the fuel gauge in the other direction
V6 is a massive step up and it certainly presses on, although it looks like so does the fuel gauge in the other direction
Willie adie
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I've always wondered why Honda never joined the party, reliable engines, id have had one.
The best 4wd I ever owned was my 4trak, not built for comfort, heat, or speed by by Christ it was a workhorse
lloyd
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let us not mention warranty that can be extended to a total of 10 years.He’s a Toyota anti …..
Cowabunga
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Which new ones are you talking about?hopefully with the new ones going back to a chain they should have less problems
Cowabunga
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The 2.0 twin turbo unladen on a reasonable trip does 30mpg from new. Mine has now improved, after only 5000 miles, to do a fairly consistent 33mpg over a tankful. I don’t expect the V6 3.0. litre to get much more than 28 with similar light duty and for only 15% more horsepower but 25% more torque. That’s bearing in mind that the torque of the 2.0 litre is 500Nm at around 1500rpm which is similar output to a New Holland TM150 with the 7.5 litre Powerstar engine. Yes really!4 days into a V6 Ranger here, limited use yet but so far, very very pleased !! Everything about it is better than the Navara's i've had before ..... as it should be for twice the money
I’m expecting the pickup engines to continue to become more efficient for the first 15,000 miles. More so for the 3.0 than the very low friction design of the 2.0 although the rest of the drivetrain has a part to play as it loosens up as well.
Cowabunga
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How so? I have a 200,000 mile Land Cruiser outside the back door. Great engine in its day but its 200hp 400Nm is outclassed by today’s 2 to 3 litre engines in both performance and markedly in fuel economy and emissions. In fact the current 200hp 2.8 Toyota diesel in the current 70 series [not sold here] outperforms the V8 diesel previously fitted, which itself replaced the 4.2 6 cylinder that I have, in the same 70/75 series truck model.He’s a Toyota anti …..
Cowabunga
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No Ssangyong any more. Not as a brand anyhow. They went bust [again] or “saved from going bust” which is probably the same thing more or less. It has been bought out and rebranded as KGM. They retain the old badge and their new advertising slogan is “Go Different. KGM”. Hmm! Anyone think of a better slogan? Something like ‘Born Tough’ or ‘Tractor Strong’ maybe?
They make cars as well as SUV’s and trucks of course, so maybe something more universal would be appropriate. ‘Born This Way’ or ‘Righteous Road Ahead'
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Cowabunga
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Because engines have evolved so very much with novel technical engineering spurring ever greater longevity [yes, if you owned vehicles in the 20th Century you would know] with less servicing with massively improved fuel economy and similarly massive reductions in exhaust emissions. Innovation introduces risks and on the whole they have pushed engine performance in every way forward and improved, with improved warranties and accountability to back them up.
Rubbish. This can all be done with reliability at the forefront.
lloyd
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Cowabunga
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I remember when exhausts and batteries had six months warranty but some cars had 12 months on main components only. Nothing is free and since Ford build and actually warrant the VW trucks, it is them that calls the tune and the VW extra warranty comes at a price up front. In other words you get and have paid for five year’s warranty whether you want it or not but have probably to service at the official dealers as a condition of the extended warranty. That is good for the dealership as it gets the owner and his vehicle back for a profit opportunity and just might be useful to the customer should he get a Friday afternoon build.Yes but some have only 3 year warranties.
Which is not long in reality.
Cowabunga
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Yet in the real world….