Wales 20mph speed limit in every town

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
you call him a clown but are you going to pay his fine and increased insurance costs if he goes over the speed limit accidentally and gets done? The welsh people voted for the government and so have to obey their laws.
We voted for none of this. None of their agricultural rules and regulations either. The Welsh Assembly does precisely what it wants because it is a Labour Party dictatorship, much like Putin’s Russia, where there is no effective opposition.
 

Jonp

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Gwent
you call him a clown but are you going to pay his fine and increased insurance costs if he goes over the speed limit accidentally and gets done? The welsh people voted for the government and so have to obey their laws.
Surely driving 3 - 5 mph below a 20 mph limit is rather inconsiderate especially when you won't be fined if your doing 26mph. Get the occasional pedant here but most drive around 30 mph. Rare to see a police car here and they certainly don't pull over cars doing 30.
Got the usual revenue generating camera traps on blind spots at the bottom of hills on the edge of towns still.
 

DeeGee

Member
Location
North East Wales
you call him a clown but are you going to pay his fine and increased insurance costs if he goes over the speed limit accidentally and gets done? The welsh people voted for the government and so have to obey their laws.
You are joking! Aren’t you?

The plod (in North Wales anyway) have stated that they won’t prosecute anyone doing u 26mph.
So why do some cretinous half wits create massive tailbacks by driving at under 20mph for miles on end!!

Most people with a brain didn’t vote for the Taffia anyway, and many of those that did are beginning to realise that it is fast becoming a dictatorship far more akin to Russia than part of the UK.

I always drive carefully and with common sense; but I certainly ain’t going to religiously follow some loony new rules dreamt up by a pedantic moron in a shabby suit down in Cardiff, who has no concept of reality, and hasn’t a clue about the affect of Draconian regulations he has imposed on people in areas that he has absolutely no knowledge of.

For God’s sake wake up to the real world and being a nodding pedant.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
I’ve just come back from a 130 mile round trip to Swansea, stating this morning at 5am. ’Twas lovely on the way down, ignoring the 20mph limit by between 10 and 15mph depending on conditions. On the way back there was a clown in a Sssangyong Tivoli who went 3 to 5mph below the speed limit and, because the roads were busy mid morning, amassed a queue of at least 25 cars behind it for miles and miles. There aren’t too many 20 limits on this route but even so it buggers the traffic flow for many miles between limits. Almost all limits, especially in Carmarthenshire towns and villages, have reduced speed limits by 10mph compared to what they were a decade ago and for no good reason whatsoever. 60 has become 50 and 40 has become 30 and the 30 has become the new 20, which is the speed many bicycles ride through there.
so the man who implemented the 20 mph policy, used to run a "charity" that wanted Low Traffic Neighbourhoods, he then went on become climate change minister. What I can't understand, is how a charity is subsidised by the government transport department. They want more cycle ways, low traffic cities, the majority of the public want better roads yet our taxes support them (in part). The only thing I can think is sustrans employees are good university educated middle class lads and lasses, and the types who have to take a taxi from Park Hall to go shopping in Lidl don't count.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
Surely driving 3 - 5 mph below a 20 mph limit is rather inconsiderate especially when you won't be fined if your doing 26mph. Get the occasional pedant here but most drive around 30 mph. Rare to see a police car here and they certainly don't pull over cars doing 30.
Got the usual revenue generating camera traps on blind spots at the bottom of hills on the edge of towns still.
when ever I drive to Carmarthen during normal business hours, there is always someone driving at that speed (under 20) in Alltwalis, then Rhydargaeau (twice), then Peniel. Was told Castle Howell, have had to put on 3 or 4 extra lorries to completer their deliveries. They can't do what the bus services do, and just reduce the length of their routes.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
when ever I drive to Carmarthen during normal business hours, there is always someone driving at that speed (under 20) in Alltwalis, then Rhydargaeau (twice), then Peniel. Was told Castle Howell, have had to put on 3 or 4 extra lorries to completer their deliveries.
You have the locations spot-on. Pencader is another one with greatly extended 30 limit where 40 used to be the case and even that was too slow at the long top end. In between all of these is a 50 limit, for no good reason I can fathom, although in some places it is actually the natural driving speed limit anyway. When 60 is reasonable though, why not drive at 60 if it’s clear? We did in the days of the awful Ford Escort and Cortina after all.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
The man is senile and out of touch with reality, surrounded by yes-men and yes-women of the same woke ideology and class.
I think the same happens to every political party that remains in power for too long, the problem is, with the constituencies and weight of Labour voters we have here in the valleys and South East, I think we will perpetually have Labour and with no effective opposition the ability to turn left wing student policy ideas into reality.
 
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