- Location
- Highland
Didn't see it, what are you meaning "power struggle"?
There's an SSE meeting here Kiltarlity at the end of the month.
Ssen pylons
- Thread starter hoff135
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There's an SSE meeting here Kiltarlity at the end of the month.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
We farm close to Blackhillock and it's probably about 60ac now with the bits added on, the HVDC bit increased it a fair bit.
We are two years into construction of the Moray West project and the substation for that is on land we used to have.
And now on the other side of us we have Blackhillock 2 which is now called Coachford, they have earmarked about 220ac for that including 25ac of mine on an outfarm.
Quite surreal going to the public meting and seeing the map of your own fields with construction compounds and Suds ponds on them!
We have had no meetings or dealings with SSEN other than a phone call clarifying ownership.
It means that we are going to have 3 substations within 2km of my house.
Next door neighbour but one is likely to have 3 new pylon lines running through her land, Beauly to Coachford, Coachford back to the existing Blackhillock, and from Coachford to Rothienorman, all in a 700m wide strip. Her place will be completely ruined.
It's all up for consultation but the way they are chucking money at bit even before planning permission it's a done deal as far as I can see.
Yes, I'd have to agree about the "done deal". The approach of these nsip projects is unlike regular planning in that they do much of the consulting and surveying etc pre application. By the time it gets to the application stage, much of the work to decide the route, along with a vast swathe of public consultation will have been done.
They do however try to get landowner agreement rather than compulsory purchase. It's not exactly brilliant if you're in the middle of it though. I've been reading over the Yorkshire scheme, as we used to have pylons over one farm and tbh they weren't awful to farm around. Less nice to live around.
But in the actual DCO they will be expected to state if they have come to an amicable arrangement with the landowner, or if they are seeking compulsory purchase powers, so get that agent (that they will pay for) working.
Dave6170
Member
- Location
- Watten, caithness
It was about people struggling with sse’s plans mostly and there was an sse man on trying to justify it all
- Location
- south norfolk
I’m sorry to be cynical but I’m 99% certain all these routes and other issues are planned and set in stone and meetings are just giving people hope.I’m fighting hard here and doing what I can but not exp to get any where.
nick…
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
These meetings are to make sure national policy has been followed. They will have modeled various routes and options. These are nationally significant projects for a reason.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Indeed. I’ve absolutely no sympathy for those who will put their own immediate whimsical priorities above those of the nation.
First they wouldn’t have wind turbines on land where we wouldn’t have needed an upgraded grid. So they put the turbines out at sea at huge extra expense. Now they won’t have the pylons on land to bring the power to where it’s needed.
It’s selfish and it’s plain stupid. Cut their electricity off.
We’ve two pipelines here. They’ve done immense damage to our drainage system. One feeds Heathrow airport. But we just had to suck it up in the national interest. I don’t agree with folk burning all that fuel for essentially nothing. But live ahd let live and put up ahd shut up in the national interest otherwise you’ll bust the country.
milton-95
Member
- Location
- aberdeenshire
They're not stopping at pylons and sub stations either . Plans for this have come on the go as well and by the looks of it it's another project that's already planned and ready to go ahead
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Theresa May signed us up to net zero by 2050. It was never going to happen without major disruption. Everybody votes for net zero. Nobody wants it their back yard. Same old same old same old. Nobody wants to do without air travel or private motoring or all the other things they hold so dear so this is the price we pay.
I've no sympathy for parasite wind farm developers who pit their own profits beyond those whom their projects affect the most.
This is nothing to do with national interest it's about money for various companies, on the back of jumped up claims about global warming. Building thousands upon thousands of windmills to charge electric cars that don't work. Other countries around the world are burning coal by the millions of tons while we are indulging ourselves in rewinding and netzero crap. The public are being scammed plain and simple
- Location
- Lincolnshire
You cant run a 2020s country on 1960s infrastructure. For a start, there are almost 20m more people.
Yes, folk build things for profit. Surely that what everyone in business does? I dont see why we in the UK seem so allergic to the idea of people making money. We have our own renewable excitement going on in this part of Lincs. Strangely noone has suggested either a) a string of new nuclear fission reactors on the old coal fired plant sites or b) a return to a Hovis advert standard of living.
Yes they do build things for profit. Yet people affected are supposed to take a huge personal and financial loss, without protest "for the good of the nation" and so other companies can make money.
Companies are looking out for their financial bottom line and so are homeowners and farmers who will lose out big time. Theirs no difference really
quavers
Member
- Location
- aberdeenshire
looks like there going to use the transco pipelines that are already there running from st fergus through to garlogie and beyond
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Yes it can be unsettling and upsetting to see familiar landscapes changed.
But as an engineer I see a certain wonder in man made structures and systems most of which are done as sympathetically as is possible commensurate with need to upgrade essential infrastructure at an affordable cost.
I often think back to Jonathan Meades and his tour of England reviewing the architecture of the land. The episode on modern farm buildings was particularly good. He acclaimed the boldness, the simple lines and referred to them as cathedrals to agriculture. I remember seeing Belmont tower being built. Nobody complained, it was an admired feat of engineering right in the middle of open countryside. It brought us television. Even the pipelines were a source of pride in some ways. We watched skilled welders join the sections together welding by hand.
What happened that made us so resistant to progress and ingenuity, to bold solutions, to engineering and industry…. even if it is, I agree, a bit in your face?
But as an engineer I see a certain wonder in man made structures and systems most of which are done as sympathetically as is possible commensurate with need to upgrade essential infrastructure at an affordable cost.
I often think back to Jonathan Meades and his tour of England reviewing the architecture of the land. The episode on modern farm buildings was particularly good. He acclaimed the boldness, the simple lines and referred to them as cathedrals to agriculture. I remember seeing Belmont tower being built. Nobody complained, it was an admired feat of engineering right in the middle of open countryside. It brought us television. Even the pipelines were a source of pride in some ways. We watched skilled welders join the sections together welding by hand.
What happened that made us so resistant to progress and ingenuity, to bold solutions, to engineering and industry…. even if it is, I agree, a bit in your face?
Dave6170
Member
- Location
- Watten, caithness
This thread is about pylons, I’d say they’re an out of date structure and an eyesore.
a better option would be build the windfarms where the power is needed and there would be no need to transmit the power the whole length of the country.
a better option would be build the windfarms where the power is needed and there would be no need to transmit the power the whole length of the country.
- Location
- People's Republic of South Yorkshire
Would be shocked if they moved it.
Powers to be never listen.
We had a part of hs2 coming through before it was cancelled.
It was a spur off the main line and was an after thought and whoever planned route never used a decent or upto date map.
Route went through 2-3 housing estates, old quarry, unstable ground, etc.
Terrain was up and down.
Some local engineer did a better route in a couple of hrs that avoided stuff and stayed more level. Would not entertain it..
- Location
- People's Republic of South Yorkshire
Because modern stuff tends to be a bodge that costs a fortune and breaks a lot..
I went to Manchester Airport other week. New mulri million pedestrian link between terminals had buckets and paper catching water from the rain leaks, 1/2 the moving floors not working.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Well yes, building the turbines where the power is needed was the original intention but it was blocked by objectors. Instead of just building the turbines where they were needed the turbines were placed off shore which now requires considerable extra grid infrastructure. This is what happens when amateurs and politicians get their way. Vanity over sanity. It costs much more and there are unintended consequences.
Dave6170
Member
- Location
- Watten, caithness
Or they cover the north of Scotland with them, less people, more space less objections.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
The whole thing could have been done better. A community owned windturbine and battery back up. A solar array. Our village would have nearly been self sufficient in power, probably exporters but no, let’s put all the turbines in the sea then build a massive new substation and power line to bottleneck it onto shore vulnerable to attack…. and all because retirees on massive government funded pensions in the countryside don’t want to see a turbine. Bonkers.