Ssen pylons

[hoff135]

2nd consultations underway for pylons across Scotland. Going off the new maps of the refined routes it looks ike they ignored all community feedback from my area and many others and are just carrying on regardless.

Proposed 60acre substation at Beauly has now increased to 870 acres, although some of that is for landscaping and temporary works.

I'm expecting to take a pretty significant financial and personal loss, and so far not one person from ssen has had the courtesy to call me, seems I'm not alone there either.

 

[Hill Ground]

870 acres?! what they gonna do with all that??

 

[hoff135]

870 acres?! what they gonna do with all that??

The comments on Facebook were suggesting more substations in future plus battery storage. Some of it is to screen with trees I think

 

[nick...]

It’s the same everywhere.im in norfolk and got 3 coming through the farm,apparently 2 more consultations but on our route groundwork is already taking place.
nick...

 

[quavers]

wife was speaking to a sse guy last year , his words were the route is planned and it wont be changed in any way , they need the power down in england so dont expect the gov. to help you out . weve enough power for scotland , these new lines are for further south

 

[hoff135]

wife was speaking to a sse guy last year , his words were the route is planned and it wont be changed in any way , they need the power down in england so dont expect the gov. to help you out . weve enough power for scotland , these new lines are for further south

I've heard that to and quite believe it, and I expect it will be forced down everyone's throats regardless of how much protest there is

 

[quavers]

I've heard that to and quite believe it, and I expect it will be forced down everyone's throats regardless of how much protest there is

was speaking to a guy last week who is dealing with alot of pylon cases all over the NE last week , his take on it was you will not stop it coming through or they buying your land , but you had to make the best of a bad egg . If you need some advise from him pm me .

 

[hoff135]

Thanks for that, there's 2 routes where I am but I'm on the "preferred" one, will wait till I know exactly where its going because at the moment it's anywhere within 1km.

I've heard talk of 5k in compensation to homeowners close to pylons, but it will hardly make up for a possible 6 figure loss in value for those affected.

 

[nick...]

From what I hear there is a one off £10 k per pylon payment when it’s all finished.and compensation for lost revenue for crops.had a meeting about all this last week and they want to put a 700m long haul road across my land.they hope to use crushed concrete but that’s not available so it will be type one granit.around £30 ton locally.700m x 6m x .450 amounts to 1890cubic metres x 2.7 (2.7 ton per cube ) is 5103 tons which is 255 8 wheeler loads.god knows how our local roads will cope being pretty much single carriageways.thats excluding 60x60 base around pylon and all the material to be dug out.60 cube of concrete under each pylon leg so that’s 240 cube per pylon.material being dug out they want to use in land fill but I refused this so they will build banks and landscape with trees etc.i asked who will get planning permission but I was told they will do as they please And no one can stop them as it’s for the national good.the damage coming is horrendous and everyone local is very annoyed and upset about it.this is all going on over 180 km and I shudder to think of the cost but of course it will all end up on our bills.we have had surveys for everything you can imagine and after refusing access I’ve got an order against me but when I know they are coming there are locals who give surveyors grief and tell them to leave.its all a horrific situation and we are just being walked over.if you are having these monstrositys keep fighting.
nick...

 

[hoff135]

From what I hear there is a one off £10 k per pylon payment when it’s all finished.and compensation for lost revenue for crops.had a meeting about all this last week and they want to put a 700m long haul road across my land.they hope to use crushed concrete but that’s not available so it will be type one granit.around £30 ton locally.700m x 6m x .450 amounts to 1890cubic metres x 2.7 (2.7 ton per cube ) is 5103 tons which is 255 8 wheeler loads.god knows how our local roads will cope being pretty much single carriageways.thats excluding 60x60 base around pylon and all the material to be dug out.60 cube of concrete under each pylon leg so that’s 240 cube per pylon.material being dug out they want to use in land fill but I refused this so they will build banks and landscape with trees etc.i asked who will get planning permission but I was told they will do as they please And no one can stop them as it’s for the national good.the damage coming is horrendous and everyone local is very annoyed and upset about it.this is all going on over 180 km and I shudder to think of the cost but of course it will all end up on our bills.we have had surveys for everything you can imagine and after refusing access I’ve got an order against me but when I know they are coming there are locals who give surveyors grief and tell them to leave.its all a horrific situation and we are just being walked over.if you are having these monstrositys keep fighting.
nick...

Yet they tell us it will make our bills cheaper, it is a complete and utter lie.

The access roads here are narrow windy single tracks and very steep in places, I reckon the place will never be the same again after they leave. Building rules are very strict here, people get refused for static carvans in the wrong place but this lot can stick up 60m pylons

 

[Ffermer Bach]

2nd consultations underway for pylons across Scotland. Going off the new maps of the refined routes it looks ike they ignored all community feedback from my area and many others and are just carrying on regardless.

Proposed 60acre substation at Beauly has now increased to 870 acres, although some of that is for landscaping and temporary works.

I'm expecting to take a pretty significant financial and personal loss, and so far not one person from ssen has had the courtesy to call me, seems I'm not alone there either.

Remember consultation and community feed back is not about altering plans, rather it's about ticking a box to show engagement.

 

[quavers]

Thanks for that, there's 2 routes where I am but I'm on the "preferred" one, will wait till I know exactly where its going because at the moment it's anywhere within 1km.

I've heard talk of 5k in compensation to homeowners close to pylons, but it will hardly make up for a possible 6 figure loss in value for the

maybe best to get some advise now before the route is definitely sealed in stone , if can put up a good argument they move the pylon route to the side abit

 

[Ffermer Bach]

From what I hear there is a one off £10 k per pylon payment when it’s all finished.and compensation for lost revenue for crops.had a meeting about all this last week and they want to put a 700m long haul road across my land.they hope to use crushed concrete but that’s not available so it will be type one granit.around £30 ton locally.700m x 6m x .450 amounts to 1890cubic metres x 2.7 (2.7 ton per cube ) is 5103 tons which is 255 8 wheeler loads.god knows how our local roads will cope being pretty much single carriageways.thats excluding 60x60 base around pylon and all the material to be dug out.60 cube of concrete under each pylon leg so that’s 240 cube per pylon.material being dug out they want to use in land fill but I refused this so they will build banks and landscape with trees etc.i asked who will get planning permission but I was told they will do as they please And no one can stop them as it’s for the national good.the damage coming is horrendous and everyone local is very annoyed and upset about it.this is all going on over 180 km and I shudder to think of the cost but of course it will all end up on our bills.we have had surveys for everything you can imagine and after refusing access I’ve got an order against me but when I know they are coming there are locals who give surveyors grief and tell them to leave.its all a horrific situation and we are just being walked over.if you are having these monstrositys keep fighting.
nick...

Something similar is likely to happen here too, a firm called Bute energy, I was told there will be a windfarm off the West of Scotland, the power will be in the sea til it hits north Wales (can't have power lines in England!), then will go straight down through Wales (Pylons) and turn left at Swansea and over to England.

My question is how much Carbon is emitted making the concrete for the pylon bases, and metal for the pylons? I know it cost more to plough in underground cables, but is the Carbon cost greater for Pylons?

 

[Ffermer Bach]

maybe best to get some advise now before the route is definitely sealed in stone , if can put up a good argument they move the pylon route to the side abit

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[quavers]

regarding compensation , if you have a hydro pole in your garden with a transformer feeding a neighbouring property that does not belong to you , to are able to claim compo as a percentage of the property . you will often find firms touring the country side offering there services for a fee when the likes of sse will pay your own land agent to do the same , so more money in your pocket . neighbour got 5 grand dodgy agent 3 grand for him self

 

[quavers]

Something similar is likely to happen here too, a firm called Bute energy, I was told there will be a windfarm off the West of Scotland, the power will be in the sea til it hits north Wales (can't have power lines in England!), then will go straight down through Wales (Pylons) and turn left at Swansea and over to England.

My question is how much Carbon is emitted making the concrete for the pylon bases, and metal for the pylons? I know it cost more to plough in underground cables, but is the Carbon cost greater for Pylons?

guy i mentioned above told me that the problem with burying the cable was the size of the hole for insulation , it was so unbelievable to my thinking that i wont repeat it here

 

[Flatland guy]

Thanks for that, there's 2 routes where I am but I'm on the "preferred" one, will wait till I know exactly where its going because at the moment it's anywhere within 1km. Ha-ha

My take on it is the route is already decided but to appease everyone/ quango etc have to do surveys to appear to do something. They send out lowly minions, reiterating route isn't decided but it is. There will have been teams working on it for at least four/ five year is my bet. Once they announce things in public the occupier is severely on the back foot!

 

[quavers]

My take on it is the route is already decided but to appease everyone/ quango etc have to do surveys to appear to do something. They send out lowly minions, reiterating route isn't decided but it is. There will have been teams working on it for at least four/ five year is my bet. Once they announce things in public the occupier is severely on the back foot!

Exactly ! and in the mean time your neighbours have there agents trying to keep the pylons off there land

 

[Rich_ard]

From what I hear there is a one off £10 k per pylon payment when it’s all finished.and compensation for lost revenue for crops.had a meeting about all this last week and they want to put a 700m long haul road across my land.they hope to use crushed concrete but that’s not available so it will be type one granit.around £30 ton locally.700m x 6m x .450 amounts to 1890cubic metres x 2.7 (2.7 ton per cube ) is 5103 tons which is 255 8 wheeler loads.god knows how our local roads will cope being pretty much single carriageways.thats excluding 60x60 base around pylon and all the material to be dug out.60 cube of concrete under each pylon leg so that’s 240 cube per pylon.material being dug out they want to use in land fill but I refused this so they will build banks and landscape with trees etc.i asked who will get planning permission but I was told they will do as they please And no one can stop them as it’s for the national good.the damage coming is horrendous and everyone local is very annoyed and upset about it.this is all going on over 180 km and I shudder to think of the cost but of course it will all end up on our bills.we have had surveys for everything you can imagine and after refusing access I’ve got an order against me but when I know they are coming there are locals who give surveyors grief and tell them to leave.its all a horrific situation and we are just being walked over.if you are having these monstrositys keep fighting.
nick...

I can't believe that. A wind turbine uses less concrete.

 

[Flatland guy]

Exactly ! and in the mean time your neighbours have there agents trying to keep the pylons off there land

At the outset of these schemes, they pay token payment rates for survey/ foot access etc across the 1km width and pay agents fees too, now in a lot of cases behind the scenes they know it is a waste of money and know where they want to site equipment but have to go through the 'motions'. So some people think they have got a victory altering cable route when it was never touching them anyway. The route will have been decided by a team of highly paid people up in ivory towers who you will never see. If you are the unlucky one there is not a lot you can do to fight it but you can get a lot of mitigating circumstances to be allowed for. This is where you need to be creative.