Agreement is live from the 1st of March. But I like to think I can reduce my 100% to 25% next year. I like farming but I’ve obviously had some technical body issues this year.
New limits to SFI.
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livestock 1
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I was thinking about this last night and the conclusion or one conclusion I came up with was bps didn’t pay enough on it’s own not to farm but paid enough to add to what was farmed meaning it did help production
Aspiring Peasants
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Species rich grassland? I thought some of our SDA land might qualify but I don’t think it will
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Exactly. Whether by accident or design, that’s how it worked and it worked well. BPS was enough of a payment to reduce the risk of production to comfortable levels but not enough free money to make it sensible to stop production entirely. BPS made production worthwhile from a risk perspective simply because it lessened the risk of going bust if you carried on producing, while sometimes things came good and production added to BPS.
BPS underpinned production but wasn’t a big enough payment to discourage it. You ajways had the chance of making a bit more on top by producing but with BPS as the safety net if markets or weather conditions went wrong.
Looking back it was a damn good thing.
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livestock 1
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Yes. It’s not available for people who have tried in the past
Back to the drawing board
can you go down the sam 3 option?
livestock 1
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That’s the thing I’ve improved it so it’s not species rich grassland but they still don’t class it as improved so not sure what I can do
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We were / are similar, sda and moor , £151 hectare for the sda in mid tier
That’s ok by me IF it was a level playing field, not £700 or whatever for bird seed
livestock 1
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Well I have folks nearby never bought lime fert never cut or sprayed rushes no cattle grazed to mention and they get £650? Ha
livestock 1
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Sfi just pays the slipper farmers
I’ve said that from the start
I’ve said that from the start
livestock 1
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It’s a landownership payment for not farming
Knocking natural N fixation on the head would be pretty stupid.
get some herbs and legumes dd and claim
Bossfarmer
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its no use telling him he still cant grasp the obvious facts
Bossfarmer
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it kept production up, especially in livestock areas, mass dispersals in the last 2 years have been behind the record beef and sheep prices we are seeing, supply and demand
Bossfarmer
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has the value of farm output increase by £115/ha
good question lets look at facts, hoggs for example are about £60/head dearer now than pre bps cuts, how many hoggs would you get to the acre on stubble neeps? 12 per acre roughly? so your over £1700 increase per acre
even on grass lowly stocked at 4 ewes per acre with 1.5 lambs thats 6 lambs at £60/hd increase, £360/acre increase so £889/ha increase
similar calcs can be done with cattle
fieldfarmer
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But surely its thought out on replacing / offsetting earning potential per acre to encourage applicants ,the playing field will never be level if on one side could grow carrots and the other sustain a few sheep to the acre per Yr.
Bossfarmer
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its not wheat that impacts the weekly shop very little effect on a loaf of bread wheats mainly used for livstock feed, its things like beef and lamb that have most effect, show us the graph for those
Bossfarmer
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the facts show otherwise, most farms recieving it continued to produce food
Bossfarmer
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