urea spreading date cut off fast approaching

T Hectares

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Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
I read in RT newsletter that any non conformances due to late spreading of uninhibited urea will require the farmer to watch a 45 minute film about ammonia release, rather than suspension from the scheme.
Really? missed that, what a stern punishment for such a heinous crime…
Do you watch the video in a dimly lit cell under supervision from an Oberfuhrer ??

Presumably a non conformance would be spreading without justification from a Facts advisor ??
 
using ammonium nitrate with current soil condition has much higher risk of nitrate leaching and run off

urea is more likely to stay in the soil

in normal year it is easy to spread all the urea before April 1
this year soil damage from inappropriate field work is far worse for the environment

we do have to abide by the rules to ensure we are forced to use more costly fertiliser
 

JCfarmer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
I read in RT newsletter that any non conformances due to late spreading of uninhibited urea will require the farmer to watch a 45 minute film about ammonia release, rather than suspension from the scheme.
You get less for shop lifting.......
Do we get NROSO points if we have to watch it?
 
What' this cut off date? Something to do with UK rules?

Incorporating urea pre drilling is very much the normal practise for us on almost all spring crops. If we had drilled any late spring cereals I would say it was essential to get some N into the seedbed given that you want them to get up and go at this time of year.

Personally I have a shed full of urea that will now go on maize, sunflowers or millet in April, May or even June now that spring cereals aren't going to happen.

You can put in on maize I think because it's not RT certified in the main.
 
I have FACTS and I would happily write my own rec for next week for pre drilling soil incorporated application on the basis that the weather is exactly the same as the previous week and not conducive to volatilisation

I think very few would want to risk for clients though

UK regs supposedly to reduce Ammonia emissions
It’s the compromise agreed through a consultation to stave off a total ban which DEFRA wanted, it’s to be enforced by Red Tractor which is what upsets us as the outcome of non compliance could be suspension and not being able to sell crops

Any Urea used from April 1st has to have a Urease inhibitor

Only in England.
 

Bumble Bee

Member
Arable Farmer
I heard that you can apply untreated urea after the cutoff date if you can show that it was washed in soon after. That will not be hard to prove this year.

I've also been told that the inhibitor that we would have to add to liquid UAN had a shelf life of 48 hours once mixed in the tank........ so how long does it last once it's applied onto the field?
It's a load of cobblers.
 
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Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
I read in RT newsletter that any non conformances due to late spreading of uninhibited urea will require the farmer to watch a 45 minute film about ammonia release, rather than suspension from the scheme.
I don't know why they didn't just ask us all to watch the video, and then use our brains to decide if it's suitable conditions for spreading urea.

Hot and dry on 10th of April, then think about using AN or protected urea.

Forecast cool and very wet for week commencing 15th April, crack on using unprotected urea.
 

crashbox

Member
Livestock Farmer
With the cut off date looming we have managed to spread most of the urea in store however we have a bit left that was destined for sp crops post emergence .We have a field of sp barley to go in and another of failed/drowned wheat to replace ,some has been ploughed and some cultivated earlier this week , waiting for it to dry a bit more . Is there any reason why we couldnt spread some urea pre sowing (i.e onto bare land) which we would normally do post sowing as its looking unlikely we will get a drill in the field till next week but would be able to travel with a half full spreader in the next couple of days or possibly over the weekend, might be cutting it fine but needs must . Pre drilling application of urea is not something I can recall ever doing unless at the same time /day . Probably im over concerned to not fall foul of some jobsworth
It's not protected, then?
 

An Gof

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Location
Cornwall
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Nearly

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Location
North of York
I don't know why they didn't just ask us all to watch the video, and then use our brains to decide if it's suitable conditions for spreading urea.

Hot and dry on 10th of April, then think about using AN or protected urea.

Forecast cool and very wet for week commencing 15th April, crack on using unprotected urea.
Or make us responsible financially for making sure the expensive stuff goes where it's needed.

It would make more sense to make it law for fert spreaders to have a lid so you can go spreading in the rain.
 

Flatland guy

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
I heard that you can apply untreated urea after the cutoff date if you can show that it was washed in soon after. That will not be hard to prove this year.

I've also been told that the inhibitor that we would have to add to liquid UAN had a shelf life of 48 hours once mixed in the tank........ so how long does it last once it's applied onto the field?
It's a load of cobblers.
And the worst of it no doubt in XX years time the science will say inhibitors have done more harm than good or are worse for environment than the normal urea. Do any inhibitors have to be tested and proved to Government before being sold like pestcides? Or do they just sell you a product with the word inhibitor on the can/ bag?
 

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