urea spreading date cut off fast approaching

[4course]

With the cut off date looming we have managed to spread most of the urea in store however we have a bit left that was destined for sp crops post emergence .We have a field of sp barley to go in and another of failed/drowned wheat to replace ,some has been ploughed and some cultivated earlier this week , waiting for it to dry a bit more . Is there any reason why we couldnt spread some urea pre sowing (i.e onto bare land) which we would normally do post sowing as its looking unlikely we will get a drill in the field till next week but would be able to travel with a half full spreader in the next couple of days or possibly over the weekend, might be cutting it fine but needs must . Pre drilling application of urea is not something I can recall ever doing unless at the same time /day . Probably im over concerned to not fall foul of some jobsworth

 

[principal skinner]

So long as you are going to drill it in the next ten days/fortnight get it on, will be fine

 

[T Hectares]

It’s my usual practice to incorporate half of the Spring Barleys N as Urea pre drilling and AN for the balance post emergence, it’s a more effective way of using Urea rather than applying post drilling to bare soils and then have high temps

I shall spin on the few remaining tons of Urea onto SB ground on Saturday, hopefully drill in the following week

 

[4course]

So long as you are going to drill it in the next ten days/fortnight get it on, will be fine

thanks

 

[4course]

It’s my usual practice to incorporate half of the Spring Barleys N as Urea pre drilling and AN for the balance post emergence, it’s a more effective way of using Urea rather than applying post drilling to bare soils and then have high temps

I shall spin on the few remaining tons of Urea onto SB ground on Saturday, hopefully drill in the following week

thanks

 

[Barleymow]

It's not what you do ,it's what you record that matters

 

[nxy]

What' this cut off date? Something to do with UK rules?

Incorporating urea pre drilling is very much the normal practise for us on almost all spring crops. If we had drilled any late spring cereals I would say it was essential to get some N into the seedbed given that you want them to get up and go at this time of year.

Personally I have a shed full of urea that will now go on maize, sunflowers or millet in April, May or even June now that spring cereals aren't going to happen.

 

[Adeptandy]

I’ve put mine on pre drilling to save a job and keep the paperwork right

 

[e3120]

It would be interesting to see if a sensible FACTS advisor would put their name to an approval to spread next week. They're qualified to assess the conditions/risk?

 

[Zippy768]

It's funny, because it has actually been incredibly dry here and great weather for spreading and getting on the fields.
The great weather this week will ensure all urea will not be spread

 

[snarling bee]

All mine on as of 4.00 yesterday. Washed in by rain last night. Perfect.
(Could do without the rain for drilling though)

 

[Nearly]

This rubbish is the next protest.
But it's easier to lie or pretend to comply. Unfortunately the dickheads carry on and impose more petty restrictions for next year.
Thereis no scientific basis.

 

[Punch]

What' this cut off date? Something to do with UK rules?

Incorporating urea pre drilling is very much the normal practise for us on almost all spring crops. If we had drilled any late spring cereals I would say it was essential to get some N into the seedbed given that you want them to get up and go at this time of year.

Personally I have a shed full of urea that will now go on maize, sunflowers or millet in April, May or even June now that spring cereals aren't going to happen.

EA wanted to ban Urea In UK.
NFU, AHDB etc managed to convince them to allow Urea before 31st Mach with inhibited urea allowed after.
Still import crops grown using it

 

[graham mc]

EA wanted to ban Urea In UK.
NFU, AHDB etc managed to convince them to allow Urea before 31st Mach with inhibited urea allowed after.
Still import crops grown using it

bloody idiots

 

[nxy]

EA wanted to ban Urea In UK.
NFU, AHDB etc managed to convince them to allow Urea before 31st Mach with inhibited urea allowed after.
Still import crops grown using it

You would be surprised how much urea is applied in north america in the autumn onto bare ground six month before drilling maize.

 

[4course]

It's not what you do ,it's what you record that matters

really ! mother wouldnt like that, shes been gone years but shes at my side every day

 

[Punch]

You would be surprised how much urea is applied in north america in the autumn onto bare ground six month before drilling maize.

I probably wouldn’t. It’s only the loonies here thinking it’s an issue. If it’s so much of an issue ban all foods that use Urea in the production process!
Our Urea period is 1st Jan to 31st March. Newly implemented this year and already under review. Could still be completely gone in a couple of years.

 

[T Hectares]

It would be interesting to see if a sensible FACTS advisor would put their name to an approval to spread next week. They're qualified to assess the conditions/risk?

I have FACTS and I would happily write my own rec for next week for pre drilling soil incorporated application on the basis that the weather is exactly the same as the previous week and not conducive to volatilisation

I think very few would want to risk for clients though

What' this cut off date? Something to do with UK rules?

Incorporating urea pre drilling is very much the normal practise for us on almost all spring crops. If we had drilled any late spring cereals I would say it was essential to get some N into the seedbed given that you want them to get up and go at this time of year.

Personally I have a shed full of urea that will now go on maize, sunflowers or millet in April, May or even June now that spring cereals aren't going to happen.

UK regs supposedly to reduce Ammonia emissions
It’s the compromise agreed through a consultation to stave off a total ban which DEFRA wanted, it’s to be enforced by Red Tractor which is what upsets us as the outcome of non compliance could be suspension and not being able to sell crops

Any Urea used from April 1st has to have a Urease inhibitor

 

[snarling bee]

I read in RT newsletter that any non conformances due to late spreading of uninhibited urea will require the farmer to watch a 45 minute film about ammonia release, rather than suspension from the scheme.

 

[tullah]

Who is going to bother about it? Nobody knows or is interested in what you are spreading or when you spread it anyway.