Brexit is destroying Britain

jendan

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Aspiring Peasants said:
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‘You’ve got to be joking’: Mandelson dismisses prospect of UK rejoining EU​


Peter Mandelson has dismissed the prospect of an incoming Labour government taking Britain back into the EU, saying “you’ve got to be joking” that Brussels would want to renegotiate the UK’s membership.

The Labour peer, a former EU trade commissioner and close adviser to Keir Starmer, said rejoining the 27-country bloc would require a referendum that UK voters had little desire for, after the Conservatives’ botched handling of Brexit.

“I cannot see the British people running towards [a referendum] for love nor money after what we went through during the last one. I really do not think that people are going to run towards a repeat of that experience,” he told a British Chambers of Commerce (BCC) event at Heathrow airport on Wednesday.

Lord Mandelson, speaking at the launch of the lobby group’s report on building “Global Britain” after the general election, added that a Starmer government would build closer ties with the EU without rejoining.

The EU wanted a more “stable, constructive relationship” with the UK, Mandelson continued, but there was no desire in Brussels for wholesale negotiation of the country’s return.

“Reopen a negotiation? You’ve got to be joking,” he said. “They [the EU] have got other priorities. They have other fish to fry now. And they’re not going to go through the back-and-forth, up-and-down, seesaw motion; or another protracted, probably hard fought over, and indecisive negotiation with Britain. So that’s simply answered.”
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Its all about the context.

"that a Starmer government would build closer ties with the EU"

Doesnt sound much different to "ever closer union" does it.
 
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jendan said:
Its all about the context.

"that a Starmer government would build closer ties with the EU"

Doesnt sound much different to "ever closer union" does it.
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Yes it does, joining the EU is totally different from building trading links. No joining the Euro, FOM, Schengen, integration, paying twice as much as before etc, as Mandelson says any idea of joining the EU is dead in the water. Must be the first time I've ever agreed with him :ROFLMAO:
 
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German economic institutes slash 2024 GDP forecast to 0.1%​

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BERLIN (Reuters) - Leading German economic institutes said on Wednesday they expect the country's economy to grow by 0.1% in 2024, slashing their prior forecast of 1.3%, as high interest rates, weak global demand and political uncertainty dent hopes for a strong recovery.

HM Treasury provides a comparison of independent forecasts for the UK economy. In March 2024, short-term forecasts for 2024 and 2025 were published. The GDP is expected to grow by 0.8 percent in 2024 and 1.9 percent in 2025.


We are not doing anyway as badly as the doom merchants like to portray
 
le bon paysan

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Yes it does, joining the EU is totally different from building trading links. No joining the Euro, FOM, Schengen, integration, paying twice as much as before etc, as Mandelson says any idea of joining the EU is dead in the water. Must be the first time I've ever agreed with him :ROFLMAO:
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Strangely, Andrea Jenkins doesn't agree.
One of them is lying.



Andrea Jenkyns MP andreajenkyns
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Starmer backed Remain
Starmer backed a second referendum
Starmer backs "closer ties with Europe"
This isn't just the past. It will be our future. Do you really believe a Labour government will honour the Brexit we fought so hard for?
 
Aspiring Peasants

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le bon paysan said:
Strangely, Andrea Jenkins doesn't agree.
One of them is lying.



Andrea Jenkyns MP andreajenkyns
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3h
Starmer backed Remain
Starmer backed a second referendum
Starmer backs "closer ties with Europe"
This isn't just the past. It will be our future. Do you really believe a Labour government will honour the Brexit we fought so hard for?
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Can’t you see she’s trying to paint Starmer as wanting to take us back into the EU because she knows that would be a vote loser? Backs up what Mandelson was saying, any notion of joining the EU is dead in the water
 
its yourself

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Aspiring Peasants said:
Yes it does, joining the EU is totally different from building trading links. No joining the Euro, FOM, Schengen, integration, paying twice as much as before etc, as Mandelson says any idea of joining the EU is dead in the water. Must be the first time I've ever agreed with him :ROFLMAO:
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Here we go again.
None of what you want is available.
Mandelson is wrong.
As are you.
The English delusion of grandeur is strong in both of you though.
 
its yourself

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Aspiring Peasants said:

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German economic institutes slash 2024 GDP forecast to 0.1%​

Story by Reuters

BERLIN (Reuters) - Leading German economic institutes said on Wednesday they expect the country's economy to grow by 0.1% in 2024, slashing their prior forecast of 1.3%, as high interest rates, weak global demand and political uncertainty dent hopes for a strong recovery.

HM Treasury provides a comparison of independent forecasts for the UK economy. In March 2024, short-term forecasts for 2024 and 2025 were published. The GDP is expected to grow by 0.8 percent in 2024 and 1.9 percent in 2025.


We are not doing anyway as badly as the doom merchants like to portray
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UK GDP per head fell last year.
Just in case you forgot.
 
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Can’t you see she’s trying to paint Starmer as wanting to take us back into the EU because she knows that would be a vote loser? Backs up what Mandelson was saying, any notion of joining the EU is dead in the water
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Which is fair enough but I think most people realise we'll need to do something different. We've been out for a few years and the brexiteer government hasn't done anything substantive with the new freedoms (apart from joining a different trade block on the other side of the world). So changing tack to be closer to our close trade block looks more likely. But that is not going to extend to rejoining.
 
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What’s all this fake news about John Bull having left EU?
The cashier in the EU office for “third countries”, is flat to the mat lodging cheques from Little Rishi, for access to an array of EU agreements and institutions.
Not alone are the people of Britain “subjects” of a feudal monarch, but are now also tenants with little rights, of the EU. Bless ‘em…
 
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HatsOff said:
Which is fair enough but I think most people realise we'll need to do something different. We've been out for a few years and the brexiteer government hasn't done anything substantive with the new freedoms (apart from joining a different trade block on the other side of the world). So changing tack to be closer to our close trade block looks more likely. But that is not going to extend to rejoining.
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Exactly
 
its yourself

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HatsOff said:
Which is fair enough but I think most people realise we'll need to do something different. We've been out for a few years and the brexiteer government hasn't done anything substantive with the new freedoms (apart from joining a different trade block on the other side of the world). So changing tack to be closer to our close trade block looks more likely. But that is not going to extend to rejoining.
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It's not going to work.
Only rejoin is available.
As Labour is starting to realise.
 
its yourself

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That German 0.1% growth looks pretty good now doesn't it.
 

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