ringi
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Only for mixed loads of products, is practically free if a HGV is filled of the same single product.
"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
- Thread starter Kiwi Pete
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Only for mixed loads of products, is practically free if a HGV is filled of the same single product.
Jonny B88
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- Location
- ballykelly. NI
Our ‘education’ body are spending millions Doing exactly this. Bloody ridiculous use of public money. Its not even comparable to a conventional farmer’s aspirations
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Yes I believe the Fuch-Weet group heavily promote such things
AHDB chap said there was no difference between slurry and the cow dunging and urinating in the field when it comes to N loss.
when I suggested there was no slurry in nature he walked away.
no response when I suggested that the dung beetles would soon sort it out.
this was at a meeting the other day.
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- somerset
it was drummed into at ag college, max output = best profit
strangely enough, OM and his bro, were completely content with how they farmed, paid all the bills, and money put aside, into bonds, shares, pensions and savings accounts, they didn't want any more.
cousin and myself, were all for max production, must have been really nasty pests, to them, upsetting their nice little world !
l think cousin and l, have learnt the lesson, max production isn't the best, in fact less is often better, costs a lot of money to get that extra 10/15%, and a lot of extra work. And its not often economical to do.
but guv has bribed, lectured, subbed farmer to produce the max they can, after ww2 it was to ensure the nation was fed, somewhere along the way, that changed, to producing cheaper food, by increasing production.
that policy has run its course, will be interesting to see what happens to food inflation, or even production, in the next few years.
- Location
- east mids
Just catching up on a couple of pages of the thread, interesting comments about youngsters starting out.
I’ll somewhat break my anonymity…. I’m starting out, 23 years old in the uk. This is year 1 for me essentially
As you guys mentioned, hard to start out to some extent. I’ve taken on debt to buy cattle. I’m lucky to have land available from family - at a cost though. And renting a bit more myself.
just moved the cows. Nice to see heads down.
literally been minutes in the new pasture and one cow on the right is reaching under the wire! Habit I guess.
I’ll also take the chance to thank you Pete and all who have posted on this thread - it’s made good reading for these past few years before actually starting out on my own. I hope to pay it forward.
I’ll somewhat break my anonymity…. I’m starting out, 23 years old in the uk. This is year 1 for me essentially
As you guys mentioned, hard to start out to some extent. I’ve taken on debt to buy cattle. I’m lucky to have land available from family - at a cost though. And renting a bit more myself.
just moved the cows. Nice to see heads down.
literally been minutes in the new pasture and one cow on the right is reaching under the wire! Habit I guess.
I’ll also take the chance to thank you Pete and all who have posted on this thread - it’s made good reading for these past few years before actually starting out on my own. I hope to pay it forward.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Thanks for putting up with all the waffle, I ran out of things to say quite a while ago.
Probably the best thing I can offer is to start with what you want to get out of it, and work back from there. It's applicable to anyone at any point in their farming/ranching career but it makes more of a difference if you start there.
For us, it's simple. I want a 6-figure income and I want freedom to experiment, this then dictates how we go about all the rest of it, what we invest in, to what extent.... etc
It dictates how your people will be, what it all looks like, and to a large extent creates your future. Too easy to get caught in the moment and have nothing over you when it's time to make choices and decisions.... having a plan helps make those
Probably the best thing I can offer is to start with what you want to get out of it, and work back from there. It's applicable to anyone at any point in their farming/ranching career but it makes more of a difference if you start there.
For us, it's simple. I want a 6-figure income and I want freedom to experiment, this then dictates how we go about all the rest of it, what we invest in, to what extent.... etc
It dictates how your people will be, what it all looks like, and to a large extent creates your future. Too easy to get caught in the moment and have nothing over you when it's time to make choices and decisions.... having a plan helps make those
Yep been up over £1000.00 for a while now
Fenwick
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- Location
- Bretagne France
Thats great, good for you!
We have been looking at a lot over here to how aspiring farmers cn get into suckler cattle.
Having a simple bare bones system is one option, and getting rid of the she and having the bare minimum in materiels is certainly possible here (though very much against the grain).
However cattle and land are still a bit more complicated. Suprisingly we have found some solutions for land but it is the cattle that have proved the most difficult.
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- somerset
good for you, starting out is hard to do in farming, especially with cattle prices high.
at 23, you haven't got set in your ways, so you should benefit in full, rather than some of us, with many more years 'experience' of previous systems, which tend to be used as a yardstick, against the 'new' system.
good luck, l actually think farming is going to change, we have combatted low prices for years, times are rapidly changing, for the better, less food production = higher prices. Demand is continually rising, and food security will become increasingly important.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Back online, haven't really missed digital devices but it's good to be back. First port of call was watching the video posted by @melted welly, quick check of the messages and thought I'd say hello to the planned-grazing people.
Nearly 30mm of rain here in the past 20 hours, which brings us to 70mm for the past 40 weeks, should get things going again
Nearly 30mm of rain here in the past 20 hours, which brings us to 70mm for the past 40 weeks, should get things going again
- Location
- DD9.
What you think of the vid?
The Resident medical professional has been very scathing of the content, despite saying he’s not actually watching it. Needs it minuted coz he’s too busy.
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- somerset
68 loaded up and down to Exeter mkt, ready for tomorrow 
they say they look really good, washed down, time will tell, lot of interest. Alas, been banned from going, not very fit this week, they are probably right.
2 local sales were sky high, this week.
so only 55 to go out to grass tomorrow, will seem a bit strange, last time we had that number was 2007, when we restarted ! Idea is they go over the next 6 months.......................... We shall see, not convinced they will, but that's down to son.
but the amount of grass, there's is oceans of the stuff, growing well.
next week, splitting up hfrs and steers, to go out, it will be interesting to see how quick we can train them to electric, or those that stay back here, some will have to set stock, on away ground. be nice to thin out the housed cattle, weather wise, so up and down, they will be healthier out.
they say they look really good, washed down, time will tell, lot of interest. Alas, been banned from going, not very fit this week, they are probably right.2 local sales were sky high, this week.
so only 55 to go out to grass tomorrow, will seem a bit strange, last time we had that number was 2007, when we restarted ! Idea is they go over the next 6 months.......................... We shall see, not convinced they will, but that's down to son.
but the amount of grass, there's is oceans of the stuff, growing well.
next week, splitting up hfrs and steers, to go out, it will be interesting to see how quick we can train them to electric, or those that stay back here, some will have to set stock, on away ground. be nice to thin out the housed cattle, weather wise, so up and down, they will be healthier out.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Feck I hope he never gets released onto the public.What you think of the vid?
The Resident medical professional has been very scathing of the content, despite saying he’s not actually watching it. Needs it minuted coz he’s too busy.
Yes it's all getting a little bit much to deny, I mean our somatic cells and bodies contain fungi for a start.
There's every possibility that this factor alone would provide an opening for an interruption of the shikimate pathway to cause deleterious effects to mammals (not saying correlation is causation, but it's difficult to totally discount it).
The tight junction damage / leaking BBB part is hard for me to deny. The incidence of so many diseases/conditions tracks with the level of contamination in the environment.
I feel all that's holding the whole thing together at this stage is "but there's worse chemicals we could use/used to use" and hostility towards farming using tillage instead.
Last time I checked it out, the maxitill parked over in the long grass wasn't poisoning anything
Hope it goes well68 loaded up and down to Exeter mkt, ready for tomorrow
2 local sales were sky high, this week.
so only 55 to go out to grass tomorrow, will seem a bit strange, last time we had that number was 2007, when we restarted ! Idea is they go over the next 6 months.......................... We shall see, not convinced they will, but that's down to son.
but the amount of grass, there's is oceans of the stuff, growing well.
next week, splitting up hfrs and steers, to go out, it will be interesting to see how quick we can train them to electric, or those that stay back here, some will have to set stock, on away ground. be nice to thin out the housed cattle, weather wise, so up and down, they will be healthier out.
prices looked good at the Symonds and Sampson sale this week so must be a bit of positivity at the moment Got a bunch out to grass finally today, first sensible dry day we've had in ages weather looks to be improving going forward now.
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- Quebec, Canada
What video would that be? It is interesting what you say about fungi ( mould). I haven’t been well since the lightning strike 2 years ago and then Long Covid. All the tests come back’ normal’ but two separate alternative medical practitioners have said that I have a mould problem in my system which is causing a lot of my symptoms.
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- somerset
holsworthy wed passed all predictions on prices, so everything crossed.Hope it goes well
Got a bunch out to grass finally today, first sensible dry day we've had in ages weather looks to be improving going forward now.
now, not that far away, only had 7mm all week.
thanks for the wishes
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Hi, the video I'm referring to was in regard to the [possible] link between human health and humans poisoning their environment in order to follow fashion, narrated by Zach Bush. He's just been on tour down here I think
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
First decent soak in a while
27mm
27mm
It seems you've changed your management approach with this project, am I right in saying that? If so, how have you, the cattle, the land, the land owner reacted to the change? What made you change your approach and do you see the management practices reverting to old ways or changing again in the next 12 months to 5 years?