"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..

[Crofter64]

Python found to be the most efficient form of livestock ever studied — so would you eat snake for dinner?

Farmed pythons grow fast on a diet of waste and produce a sustainable meat that a researcher says tastes a bit like chicken. Snake is consumed in many places around the world — will Australians give it a try?

www.abc.net.au

 

[Henarar]

Now that snake in the grass was a pain in the neck

 

[Henarar]

Now that snake in the grass was a pain in the neck

It gets better

 

[Farmer Roy]

No one cares about reptiles or fish - apparently the don’t elicit the same level of empathy as furry mammals

so - no issues regarding eating cute fluffy little lambs or baby cows . . .

 

[Kiwi Pete]

And I bet they don't fart either. Be a good stepping stone between what we eat now, and insect protein

 

[Farmer Roy]

Black fellas here had no problem eating snakes for 10’s of 1000’s of years, about time the white fellas caught up

 

[sheepdogtrail]

Calves had a shift todayView attachment 1171215
Quite misty almost drizzle this morning and cleared throughView attachment 1171216last of the animals down from the valley, driver had them loaded before they had a chance to run the wand over them, so did that, now I have a mob of 370 cows to landscape with they swam through a dam while I had my lunchView attachment 1171218View attachment 1171219View attachment 1171220View attachment 1171221
A couple had walked through under a fence so pushed them back, mrs KP says she "just can't watch me ride, some of the places I go" yet still sent me pictures

Having some fun! What a gorgeous late fall you are having. Keep enjoying it.

 

[Crofter64]

And I bet they don't fart either. Be a good stepping stone between what we eat now, and insect protein

Again

 

[crashbox]

Weekly shifts work really well coming from that background, as I know exactly what I want to see in terms of gutfill, behaviour, contentment, dung, utilisation etc - all it is, is slower and steadier

I'm really intrigued, KP; when I visited, you were pretty committed to multiple daily shifts.

What are the pros/cons (apart from time spent), and when would you apply one rather than the other?

Here, dairy cows get fresh break every day. Out-wintered stock get a fresh chunk of green crop with their bale-grazing daily, too.

But on the big meadows with awkward river meanders, I split ground into week-ish chunks for a big mob of mixed dry stock (in calf heifers, dry cows, older beef cattle). Then it gets a few weeks' rest. Not perfect, but so much better for growing grass than set stocking, and good return for the time invested.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I'm really intrigued, KP; when I visited, you were pretty committed to multiple daily shifts.

What are the pros/cons (apart from time spent), and when would you apply one rather than the other?

Here, dairy cows get fresh break every day. Out-wintered stock get a fresh chunk of green crop with their bale-grazing daily, too.

But on the big meadows with awkward river meanders, I split ground into week-ish chunks for a big mob of mixed dry stock (in calf heifers, dry cows, older beef cattle). Then it gets a few weeks' rest. Not perfect, but so much better for growing grass than set stocking, and good return for the time invested.

It's really just evenness.
With 100 acres it all needed to be working optimally, here we have most of our paddocks bigger than that - with a small water trough somewhere, or a dam

Really it's a graze period:rest period ratio I'm looking for, we don't chase high utilisation because we'll always have more grass in a paddock than water, thus it becomes about graze period (if we don't want to overgraze, which we don't)

Some areas will be underutilised and some will be well grazed, but there's nothing stopping me grazing them again over winter

 

[Kiwi Pete]

 

[Farmer Roy]

reGenerative Grazing Group | Facebook

Welcome! This is a group for discussions and problem solving for regeneratively grazing all kinds of critters while improving the health of the animals and the soil. Posts involving anything other...

www.facebook.com

 

[som farmer]

read, and inwardly digested the article re snakes.

and my mind confirmed what l thought, there is no fecking way, anybody is going to talk me into either, farming, or eating the fecking things,

period.

 

[som farmer]

reGenerative Grazing Group | Facebook

Welcome! This is a group for discussions and problem solving for regeneratively grazing all kinds of critters while improving the health of the animals and the soil. Posts involving anything other...

www.facebook.com

looks interesting, but l have a slight problem, got kicked out of face ache, two weeks after l joined, for viewing 'inappropriate material'.

never got any farther than market place, for ag related adverts, knew farming was unpopular, but couldn't see the wrong in that, so feck them.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

looks interesting, but l have a slight problem, got kicked out of face ache, two weeks after l joined, for viewing 'inappropriate material'.

never got any farther than market place, for ag related adverts, knew farming was unpopular, but couldn't see the wrong in that, so feck them.

Wait til you go on "regenerative grazing group" and suggest that regenerative grazing may help undo the damage that their too-short recovery strategy is causing

One of their founding admins pulled me aside and told me to shut my mouth, I said "I don't use my mouth to post on Facebook I type with my fingers" and got put on premod for that, but Chris abused me via private message for weeks. Best group I ever unfollowed

 

[sheepdogtrail]

To this day I have not been able to come up with a reasonable answer why anyone uses Facebook at all.

 

[som farmer]

To this day I have not been able to come up with a reasonable answer why anyone uses Facebook at all.

however, one could say this is a social media channel, similar to facebook.

quite happy to say, go where the sun don't shine to fcebook.

but would be rather upset to lose TFF.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

To this day I have not been able to come up with a reasonable answer why anyone uses Facebook at all.

It's as good as you make it; sometimes it's in our best interests to do the odd U-turn, with anything really. This was a classic example where I thought contributions were what it was all about, and it's only some contributions that are welcome.

I get my ass shot out on here too and it's no bother, I don't know anything

 

[Fenwick]

FB is a tool. and like any tool its only useful if its the right tool and you use it properly.

If you don't need it, thats great. If you do need it then being able to use it correctly (learning how to communicate with others online etc) is essential.

Unfortunately its a shared tool. And just like on the farm, sharing tools isn't always simple.

The english speaking FB groups seem almost sectarial. hich is a shame as their are snippets of fantastic info, and it puts people off sharing any 'outside of the box

My French FB group on the otherhand is quite 'bienveillant' which poorly translates into goodwill towards others, we have been making massive progress nationally thanks to this group.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I agree with all of that.

It's just an amplified view of what it is to be human being, as it's a smaller than real world.

The righteous have every right to be there, as they are us !

Everybody really wants to be right and nobody really wants to be shown as wrong, because the people who really don't give two hoots say very little we have the availibility heuristic that has us think people are hard work.

I could shoot the TFF messenger for that one, doesn't stop me from picking the scabs off .
Part of my work is how I handle situations that don't supply me with agreement.