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e3120 · Apr 20, 2024

neilo said:
So good here that I actually managed to put the pre-emergence spray on my Winter Barley, sown in early October.
There is only a thin crust of dry on top though, and still the flotation tyres are struggling in places.

Spring will no doubt arrive one day, won’t it?

Considering the water was gushing across mine last week, I somehow dodged across it with, virtually flat, rowcrops for its T1 today. Can't afford to be running down any straw! Final nitrogen tomorrow. The Urea police don't work on Sundays.

neilo · Apr 20, 2024

e3120 said:
Considering the water was gushing across mine last week, I somehow dodged across it with, virtually flat, rowcrops for its T1 today. Can't afford to be running down any straw! Final nitrogen tomorrow. Urea's OK on Sundays isn't it?

If I put the rowcrops on, I could likely weave between the plants to avoid running any straw down.

On the plus side, I can see where all the hundred year old drains are currently, marked out in the yellow crop by slightly less yellow stripes.

LAMBCHOPS · Apr 20, 2024

neilo said:
If I put the rowcrops on, I could likely weave between the plants to avoid running any straw down.

On the plus side, I can see where all the hundred year old drains are currently, marked out in the yellow crop by slightly less yellow stripes.

Doing a bit of draining today the discussion was are there there any skilled drainage people out there anymore. A generation ago there was but these men have passed away. Drainage was supported by grants, our farm has eyes popping up here and there but who to turn to now who has the skill set?

Northeastfarmer · Apr 20, 2024

Skintagain said:
Do you usually run out?

No never

Ceri · Apr 21, 2024

LAMBCHOPS said:
Doing a bit of draining today the discussion was are there there any skilled drainage people out there anymore. A generation ago there was but these men have passed away. Drainage was supported by grants, our farm has eyes popping up here and there but who to turn to now who has the skill set?

My old man was a drainage contractor for 60 years done thousands & thousands meters of draining during his time I always really admired his knowledge of the job & v soon realised there is an “art” to draining. My idea of sorting out a wet spot was dig straight through it with a drain but he used to say to me no…. It needs digging across there that will catch that & I can guarantee there’ll be an old clay drain going across there, we’ll dig down to that, plumb that into that & that’ll sort the job out etc etc….. It always sorted the job - & always made me smile there’s more to the job than jus going at it like a farmer…

One thing he absolutely insisted on however, the golden rule of drainage was to put stone in the drains - reckoned that was even more important than the pipe……………

Northeastfarmer · Apr 21, 2024

Ceri said:
My old man was a drainage contractor for 60 years done thousands & thousands meters of draining during his time I always really admired his knowledge of the job & v soon realised there is an “art” to draining. My idea of sorting out a wet spot was dig straight through it with a drain but he used to say to me no…. It needs digging across there that will catch that & I can guarantee there’ll be an old clay drain going across there, we’ll dig down to that, plumb that into that & that’ll sort the job out etc etc….. It always sorted the job - & always made me smile there’s more to the job than jus going at it like a farmer…
One thing he absolutely insisted on however, the golden rule of drainage was to put stone in the drains - reckoned that was even more important than the pipe……………

I would never lay a modern drainage pipe without stone…..but they never used stone in the old clay pipes and they work perfectly.
I was told a story of a local farmer years ago who was very poor and he dag the drainage trenches and laid hawthorn cuttings into it and soiled it back over

casper74 · Apr 21, 2024

1st day trip to Broughton yesterday!! The place was packed with folk and cattle, certain members of another auctioneering company won't be overly impressed with that!!
Cattle were a straight trade throughout, anything with shape good trade.

LAMBCHOPS · Apr 21, 2024

Ceri said:
My old man was a drainage contractor for 60 years done thousands & thousands meters of draining during his time I always really admired his knowledge of the job & v soon realised there is an “art” to draining. My idea of sorting out a wet spot was dig straight through it with a drain but he used to say to me no…. It needs digging across there that will catch that & I can guarantee there’ll be an old clay drain going across there, we’ll dig down to that, plumb that into that & that’ll sort the job out etc etc….. It always sorted the job - & always made me smile there’s more to the job than jus going at it like a farmer…
One thing he absolutely insisted on however, the golden rule of drainage was to put stone in the drains - reckoned that was even more important than the pipe……………

It makes me think that with all these Farming connect training courses for mostly (but not all) trivial things and massive expense there really should be some serious thought in apprentices for the understanding and teaching of the next generation of land drainage contractors. Our fields have historic systems which are breaking up and come 20 years time we won't have any knowledge of how to fix them It will become a problem if not addressed. Perhaps their are Places doing courses? It's a special knowledge to learn. Heavy machinery is also contributing probably on some cases.

Hilly · Apr 21, 2024

Digger drivers these days dont want to soend time in mud drains and working for tight farmers , whos to blame them , fixing burst drians is a nightmare o job …

Attam · Apr 21, 2024

Hilly said:
Digger drivers these days dont want to soend time in mud drains and working for tight farmers , whos to blame them , fixing burst drians is a nightmare o job …

very true. Used to do a lot of walling with another lad but the golden rule was never end up doing farmers dry stone walls!! “ as only gitten 25 pun Ont grant eh! Can’t be paying you lads any mer than 30”

facing houses and garden walls was where the money was.

Hilly · Apr 21, 2024

Attam said:
very true. Used to do a lot of walling with another lad but the golden rule was never end up doing farmers dry stone walls!! “ as only gitten 25 pun Ont grant eh! Can’t be paying you lads any mer than 30” facing houses and garden walls was where the money was.

Yes your right . Sad .

Stw88 · Apr 21, 2024

Hilly said:
Digger drivers these days dont want to soend time in mud drains and working for tight farmers , whos to blame them , fixing burst drians is a nightmare o job …

Yes but very satisfying when you get them going right. Very rare you see any of our neighbours fixing any drains, same folk that complain when their making a mess getting silage in.

Hilly · Apr 21, 2024

Stw88 said:
Yes but very satisfying when you get them going right. Very rare you see any of our neighbours fixing any drains, same folk that complain when their making a mess getting silage in.

Agree , i bought my own 14ton 360 as can hardly get anyone that will do that sort of work now and ones that do you wait for months , been a great investment use it alot and its gone up in value since covid ..

Skintagain · Apr 21, 2024

Northeastfarmer said:
No never

We started off with a lot looking sick now the stack

aangus · Apr 21, 2024

casper74 said:
1st day trip to Broughton yesterday!! The place was packed with folk and cattle, certain members of another auctioneering company won't be overly impressed with that!!
Cattle were a straight trade throughout, anything with shape good trade.

was Libby auctioneering

casper74 · Apr 21, 2024

aangus said:
was Libby auctioneering

Yes

Deano1973 · Apr 21, 2024

casper74 said:
1st day trip to Broughton yesterday!! The place was packed with folk and cattle, certain members of another auctioneering company won't be overly impressed with that!!
Cattle were a straight trade throughout, anything with shape good trade.

how did you get on loading ? can be a long day there

casper74 · Apr 21, 2024

Deano1973 said:
how did you get on loading ? can be a long day there

No trouble at all, left it to haulier and came home!

Full of bull(s) · Apr 21, 2024

casper74 said:
Yes

It’s been a long time since I’ve had the pleasure of hearing the tone deaf two tone auctioneer

livestock 1 · Apr 21, 2024

Full of bull(s) said:
It’s been a long time since I’ve had the pleasure of hearing the tone deaf two tone auctioneer

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