16% should be the moisture standard for selling grain as it was before the EU.

[glasshouse]

Have had a quote to sell wheat at 16% as short of time to dry it.
£30/ ton is the cost to haul to dryer and dry it
Ridiculous , unnecessary and bad for carbon footprint.
30 yrs ago it would have gone at 16 % no problem

 

[DaveGrohl]

Bureaucracy. Will be the death of the Planet/humanity.

 

[Grass And Grain]

I've a feeling storage moulds are worse at 16% Vs 15. So it's not an easy thing to ask for the standard to be shifted to 16%. (Well, storage moulds get worse if stored for a long period of time at 16%)

However, many mills will accept at 16% with a price knock, so large parts of industry are taking it anyway.

Is your wheat under 16% now? If so, what's the price knock if 15-16% MC?

 

[Gone Shooting]

If its going to a mill 16 is fine - always was in the past. When intervention stores and loading boats it was dropped to 15 so it stores better. It must cost the farming industry millions of wasted money drying to 15 - the local mill here will knock you here but uses it anyway and dont dry any !!!!

 

[Boysground]

Direct sale to a dairy/mill making caustic wheat. 1st thing they do is add water.

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[britt]

Most mills take it up to 16% with a smaller deduction than the cost of drying. The deduction is only about the lost weight of water anyway.

 

[Farmer Roy]

Our standard delivery is 12.5%

But a large proportion is exported via boat & also stored for a long time . . .

High moisture & high temps do not go well together here

 

[Wombat]

Our standard delivery is 12.5%

But a large proportion is exported via boat & also stored for a long time . . .

High moisture & high temps do not go well together here

And in how many years do you have to dry it to get to 12.5%

 

[DrDunc]

And in how many years do you have to dry it to get to 12.5%

Would suspect far fewer years than the number drought destroys the crop?

 

[HatsOff]

If its going to a mill 16 is fine - always was in the past. When intervention stores and loading boats it was dropped to 15 so it stores better. It must cost the farming industry millions of wasted money drying to 15 - the local mill here will knock you here but uses it anyway and dont dry any !!!!

That sounds like fraud to me.

 

[Grass And Grain]

That sounds like fraud to me.

I haven't heard of them reducing compound feed prices by £2/t because they sourced the wheat/barley a bit cheaper that day.

 

[Farmer Roy]

And in how many years do you have to dry it to get to 12.5%

That depends on the crop


Have never dried wheat / barley / canola etc - crops that we harvest in summer.

However, we quite often have high moisture issues with our summer crops ( sorghum, corn - maize, etc ) that are harvested in autumn / winter.

Asan exporting nation, we have to adhere to the requirements & specifications of our customers. They require that grain is 12.5 % when it is loaded on the boat, so that is what it is. Very expensive getting a truckload of 40 tonne rejected at the port due to moisture & then having to bring it 300 km home again . . .

 

[Farmer Roy]

Would suspect far fewer years than the number drought destroys the crop?

I’ve never had drought “destroy” a crop, although I have chosen not to plant a few because of lack of soil moisture.

All of my crops that have been “destroyed” have been through either flooding ( the most common ) or hail

 

[Farmer Roy]

We have a summer dominant rainfall, so the bulk of our rain falls during summer . . .

 

[Farmer Roy]

And in how many years do you have to dry it to get to 12.5%

Anyway, climatic differences or whatever, there is no way we can store grain, or ship it via ocean half way around the world, at 16% moisture & expect it to be in any useable state at the other end

Unfair advantages of the northern hemisphere

 

[Wombat]

Anyway, climatic differences or whatever, there is no way we can store grain, or ship it via ocean half way around the world, at 16% moisture & expect it to be in any useable state at the other end

Unfair advantages of the northern hemisphere

haha i would just like to cut wheat at 12.5% once in my lifetime

 

[Farmer Roy]

haha i would just like to cut wheat at 12.5% once in my lifetime

We start at 12.5.
Quite often down to 10%, we will harvest all night until it hits 12.5 then stop . . .

This is wheat I’m talking about

Sorghum, being harvested in autumn / winter, is a bit more complicated at times.
This year, mine was all delivered on a “high moisture” contract up to 15%, but even then we were aerating a lot, dried some , were constantly checking moisture & unfortunately had 2 B Double ( 40 tonne each ) loads rejected at the port at Newcastle ( about 300 km away )

 

[Hay Maker]

I haven't heard of them reducing compound feed prices by £2/t because they sourced the wheat/barley a bit cheaper that day.

Most mills have to add water / Steam & or binding agents to the mix in order to make the cubes hard enough to be bagged, transported & blowen into hoppers. Farmers will complain if cubes are soft & break up. Grain @ 16% is actually prefered at mills. It is the merchants who will make the claims when they see the weight tickets which always give the moisture content which they get very quickly.

 

[glasshouse]

Anyway, climatic differences or whatever, there is no way we can store grain, or ship it via ocean half way around the world, at 16% moisture & expect it to be in any useable state at the other end

Unfair advantages of the northern hemisphere

I bet you never cut wheat at 30% to stop it sprouting

 

[glasshouse]

Most mills have to add water / Steam & or binding agents to the mix in order to make the cubes hard enough to be bagged, transported & blowen into hoppers. Farmers will complain if cubes are soft & break up. Grain @ 16% is actually prefered at mills. It is the merchants who will make the claims when they see the weight tickets which always give the moisture content which they get very quickly.

Exactly, its all a scam.
They either rip is off at intake or make us burn fossil fuel needlessly