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Discussion in 'Brexit & Politics' started by 7610 super q, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. 7610 super q

    7610 super q Member

    Location:
    Crapweathershire
    Interesting article in the local rag today.

    In the 12 months after the EU introduced milk quotas, Pembrokeshire NFU supported families through :-

    22 receiverships,
    2 bankruptcies,
    2 suicides.

    Some folks must have shorter memories than others......
     
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  2. At their very best

     
  3. Ashtree

    Ashtree Member

    Tut, tut!! Not meaning to be insensitive, BUT, quotas were introduced simply because there were vast quantities of dairy produce in storage. Milk lakes, butter mountains etc.
    Price supports to farmers to keep them afloat.

    Quotas were inevitable and were set at 1981 levels. Just 3 years prior to introduction.

    Wait till you see what Brexit will do to UK farmers incomes once farming is used as a sacrifice to get trade deals for the city boys.

    You need to read more informative rags! Keep your local rag for stuffing your wellies when the soles break through. Brexit farming won't allow luxuries like wellies!:scratchhead:
     
  4. 7610 super q

    7610 super q Member

    Location:
    Crapweathershire
    And 33 years later, they're still moving the goalposts. I had this email this morning. Not that it bothers me, as I wouldn't ever get involved in these ridiculous schemes.

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  5. Ashtree

    Ashtree Member

    So what. Regulations change and can be a pain in the butt. Do you wish to go back to using DDT powder?
    Every business has constantly changing regulations. Simple fact of life.
    As I said in another thread even when Brexit is done and dusted the regulatory environment will be nothing more and nothing less than EU copy and paste.
    Then when your government has hired another 30k civil servants to to cover the work done in Brussels today on behalf of HMG, they will have much more time and resources to police the stuff. Guess who loses?
     
  6. Danllan

    Danllan Member

    Those figures simply can't right; if they were the thickies couldn't blame Brexit.
     
  7. 7610 super q

    7610 super q Member

    Location:
    Crapweathershire
    Hmmm....well hopefully we won't need 30k overpaid civil servants dreaming up blanket regulations to try and cover maize barrons in Poland, olive growers in greece, and sheep farmers in Wales.:)
     
  8. Walterp

    Walterp Member

    Location:
    Pembrokeshire
    Alternative view: 30,000 staff to administer the EU is admirably efficient.

    By way of comparison, Manchester Council employs 19,000 staff ex contractors, for a fairly insignificant area compared to pan-Europa.

    And that article appeared in Pembrokeshire Farmer last month...
     
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  9. Before he became a Hollywood megastar, Anthony Hopkins made a brilliant tv drama (in about 1986?). He was a welsh dairy farmers who's expansion plans just before the quotas came in broke them. Does anyone else remember it?

    Btw - the other side of the quotas was that they then became very wealthy, that very quota being a very valuable asset, handed to them on a plate for doing a certain job. Now that did pee me off.
     
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  10. 7610 super q

    7610 super q Member

    Location:
    Crapweathershire
    And the rules changed again in 2005. Some ended up with surplus entitlements. Entitlements became tradable. Some ended up with nowt, and had to buy them back. That REALLY peed me off.
    Why anyone would want another 40 years of this is beyond me.
     

  11. There was, until last year, quotas on headage payments here. You couldn't sell them though. The problems you see are not the eu but the way the uk chooses to implement.
     
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  12. turbo

    turbo Member

    Location:
    lincs
    I didn't realize that the eu employed so many people to do the work for us but who pays for them or do they work for free
    You should of put that on a side of a bus,the eu employs 1000s of bureaucrats to implement regulations on you and it costs the British public nothing,you would of walked it
     
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  13. Yes. Brilliant and heartbreaking. He sat in a police cell calling his cows at the end.
     
  14. Here is the film featuring Anthony Hopkins for those who might be interested.
     

  15. Thank you
    I will watch it tonight :)
     

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