1st Experience with Electric Car

[Scrambler]

How are you arriving at 7.5ppm ? Is that after reclaiming vat, and even then what are you paying for fuel?

Petrol and diesel are now around £1.50/Lt. So x 4.5 = around £6.75/gallon. So that would mean around 30 mpg for the curtain sider and 90 mpg for the Skoda. That’s getting into Honda C50 Cub territory!

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Petrol and diesel are now around £1.50/Lt. So x 4.5 = around £6.75/gallon. So that would mean around 30 mpg for the curtain sider and 90 mpg for the Skoda. That’s getting into Honda C50 Cub territory!

£1 / litre at 60mpg to get 7.5ppm

 

[jpd]

watched a vid last night
that stated each fast charger
has a cost of between 40-50k dollars

 

[Poorbuthappy]

watched a vid last night
that stated each fast charger
has a cost of between 40-50k dollars

And could gross £1k a day if in popular location?

 

[Cowlife]

Anybody fitted one for the public to use.?We've a bit of land with 3 phase cables coming over it with a lot of nearby traffic in a scenic area. What size charger could be put in?
Would it pay?

 

[Courier]

How are you arriving at 7.5ppm ? Is that after reclaiming vat, and even then what are you paying for fuel?

Last week we were paying 111 ppl and yess the vat gets claimed back for our business use …

 

[Highland Mule]

Last week we were paying 111 ppl and yess the vat gets claimed back for our business use …

Almost 70mpg. That’s impressive restraint from your drivers.

 

[Courier]

Almost 70mpg. That’s impressive restraint from your drivers.

Shove it on cruise control at 73 mph (gps) and that’s what it does . Current week at 114 ppl and expecting next week to be nearer 117

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Know a rep with an ID3 who reports his car needs new tyres on driven axle every 10,000 miles.
That's a considerable extra cost when on average my petrol cars get 30,000 miles from driven axle tyres.
Are you guys running electric cars experiencing rapid tyre wear?

In the 20 odd years that the little one and I have been driving similar everyday vehicles, I've noticed that his tyres last 10 to 12 k and mine last 20 to 24 k. When I ride with him it is obvious why that is!

 

[Y Fan Wen]

I was shown round a Vauxhall Mokka e recently and noted that it has a conventional lead acid battery, presumably for running all the accessories. I never thought to ask, how is it kept charged? Anyone know?

 

[Courier]

I was shown round a Vauxhall Mokka recently and noted that it has a conventional lead acid battery, presumably for running all the accessories. I never thought to ask, how is it kept charged? Anyone know?

No idea, but possibly on the overrun when charge is being created by not having a true freewheeling mode.

 

[Highland Mule]

I was shown round a Vauxhall Mokka e recently and noted that it has a conventional lead acid battery, presumably for running all the accessories. I never thought to ask, how is it kept charged? Anyone know?

Most (all?) EVs also have a 12V battery system for the ancillary systems. Presumably charged off an alternator running on a rotating shaft somewhere. Trivial capacity and draw, I imagine, but easier than running all the common systems on silly high voltages v/v ICE equivalents.

 

[Daniel]

Most (all?) EVs also have a 12V battery system for the ancillary systems. Presumably charged off an alternator running on a rotating shaft somewhere. Trivial capacity and draw, I imagine, but easier than running all the common systems on silly high voltages v/v ICE equivalents.

Wouldn’t it just use a dc-dc charger to charge the 12v battery off the main 800v battery?

 

[Highland Mule]

Wouldn’t it just use a dc-dc charger to charge the 12v battery off the main 800v battery?

No idea, sorry.

 

[Courier]

No idea, sorry.

From an extract on Renault Zoe

“As soon as the ZOE boots up and you can press the START button, it will start charging the 12 volt battery from the 400 volt system and you can disconnect. If you are using a charger, remove the negative terminal, connect the charger for an hour, connect negative and start the car.”

 

[PostHarvest]

I was shown round a Vauxhall Mokka e recently and noted that it has a conventional lead acid battery, presumably for running all the accessories. I never thought to ask, how is it kept charged? Anyone know?

Its all OK whilst everything is working as it should, but I have heard of several cases where the accessory battery has lost its charge, causing major problems. A couple of months ago, a BBC presenter spent 5 hours trying to get out of his electric car when the door locks and electric windows stopped working. I believe that eventually someone smashed a window, but he had nothing inside the car that was heavy enough to break the glass.

 

[chickens and wheat]

Pre 2020 ipace has 12v battery issues,if small battery fails car wont move at all.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Pre 2020 ipace has 12v battery issues,if small battery fails car wont move at all.

Design issues like that will get ironed out.

Otherwise the brand will rightly haemorrhage market share.

 

[sjt01]

Design issues like that will get ironed out.

Otherwise the brand will rightly haemorrhage market share.

All 3 of our EVs have had new 12 volt batteries, but so have our previous petrol and diesel cars at similar ages, and they would not work without the 12 volt batteries either

 

[PostHarvest]

they would not work without the 12 volt batteries either

In every petrol and diesel vehicle that I have had - and there have been quite a few - when the battery fails, it typically has enough power to operate the ancillaries but not the starter. On an EV, that situation doesn't apply. Yes THEY will design out those problems, but THEY should have done that years ago.