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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
You are always constrained by the plate and the hitch capacity anyway. 3500kg is the max and certainly on over-run brakes
2019 L200 towing capacity small print!
- Thread starter HDAV
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Correct. 50mm ball couplings are only rated at 3500kg in this country regardless of what there hitched to.
As for the ball coupling pins that go through tractor draw bars I’ve yet to see one rated at more than 1500kg yet!
As for 14ft livestock trailers there a fairly pointless creation as legally they can’t carry anymore weight than can be comfortably got into a 12ft trailer.I would estimate we have been over weight many times with our 12ft wheels underneath Edwards trailer. We were originally going to spend more on a 14ft version then quickly realised it was a waste of money.
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
I am thinking about one solely so I have more space for a show box and fodder
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Adam@Rumen
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- Nantwich/Rishton
I've just bought a 16 foot dropside trailer and went for twin axle rather than triple to keep the gross weight down and carry more. An L200 was in contention for the next truck to get. Suppose that's a no go now 
Why have they done this @Cowabunga do you know? Do you see anyone else doing something similar?
Why have they done this @Cowabunga do you know? Do you see anyone else doing something similar?
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
I was thinking tri-axle
- Location
- Darlington
Same here, was news to me Thank you @HDAV for bringing it to, those who us who haven't seen it's. attention
Be better to have 2 partitions so the cattle are over the wheels of the trailer with empty space front and rear.
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Yes I was thinking that way too. Also I've found it's surprising how many times I could have done with a second partition gate for all sorts of reasons
I've just bought a 16 foot dropside trailer and went for twin axle rather than triple to keep the gross weight down and carry more. An L200 was in contention for the next truck to get. Suppose that's a no go now
Why have they done this @Cowabunga do you know? Do you see anyone else doing something similar?
Fiat sell an L200 clone? Guess that will be same .....
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
Put a partition in for a part load in a 12ft and you can't fit the cows in either side of it. Say two 600kg in front and two behind. Or two and three, to stop them moving around too much. I've had a 12ft trailer and it just wasn't big enough. If you stuff them in, they are secure, but again could be over weight limit.
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
No other vehicle has this rule. They have done it to make a lighter than average pickup have a competitive legal maximum towing figure. Just who, in power, sanctioned the weight limits for it will remain a mystery that only those in the motor trade probably know.I've just bought a 16 foot dropside trailer and went for twin axle rather than triple to keep the gross weight down and carry more. An L200 was in contention for the next truck to get. Suppose that's a no go now
Why have they done this @Cowabunga do you know? Do you see anyone else doing something similar?
Adam@Rumen
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- Location
- Nantwich/Rishton
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
He does have small cows right enough.
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
It is not safe to assume anything. I have seen no mention of Fiat having homologated the Fullback to tow 3.5 tons under any circumstances, even though it is essentially an L200. Towing capacity varies between 2.7 tons and 3.1 tons as far as I know, depending on model.
Adam@Rumen
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- Nantwich/Rishton
I was under the impression they were shelving that?
Cheers Duck
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/fiat/fullback/106721/fiat-fullback-pick-up-truck-axed-from-fiat-range
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
Not a massive surprise. They struggled to sell it, mainly because most Fiat dealers are uncompetitive, possibly because they are sub-agents for Fiat Professional truck dealers.
The excuse about emission regulations is pure bullpoo, because Mitsubishi have no issue with that and have a revised L200 ready for imminent launch.
It is doubtful whether Fiat ever bothered to raise their towing maximum like Mitsubishi did for triple axle trailers.
I don't believe that is correct. People with pre 97 licences can tow greater than 3.5 ton on a B+E provided you use close coupled hydraulic brakes. Vehicles such as a discovery I and possibly II are rated to 3.9 ton towing weight in this scenario I believe. Definitely more than 3.5.
I think the reason the ball can tow greater than 3.5t is because on pre 98 vehicles you don't need a type approved tow ball / tow bar etc. Consequently you can tow >3500kg on a old towball since it has never been certified for less. Obviously you also need a suitably rated trailer and hitch, again not common but possible. Be careful with blanket assumptions that just because modern type approval doesn't allow it doesn't mean you can't with older vehicles.
ollandroverman
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- nr Kendal (The Lake District)
Above 3.5 tons you need a ring hitch. As @Drillman says, tow balls are unavailable above 3.5 rated capacity and never have been.
Rated (design) capacity and type approval are not the same thing.
Also, with a trailer above 3500kg you are into plating and testing regs.
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ive put a ring hitch on my 14ft stock trailer,only pull it with tractors,trailer is still only plated for 3500kg.
75 35kg store lambs would be 2625kg ,so 875kg left for twin axle ifw trailer ulw is not shown of the plate of my ifw
75 35kg store lambs would be 2625kg ,so 875kg left for twin axle ifw trailer ulw is not shown of the plate of my ifw